tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post9144402612229953485..comments2023-09-27T04:43:56.663-05:00Comments on Loving Church: In keeping with the roots of UCCFMike Gilbart-Smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-45250570026219218102007-05-04T14:28:00.000-05:002007-05-04T14:28:00.000-05:00Yes, though it is true that IVF/IVP over in the st...Yes, though it is true that IVF/IVP over in the states have the same ROOTS as UCCF in the UK, it would not be accurate to suggest that they have remained as true to those roots.<BR/>The famous 1947 meetings in Boston saw the birth of IFES http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fellowship_of_Evangelical_Students<BR/>This shows that though there are share roots of UCCF (associated with IVP-UK) and IVF (associated with IVP-USA) there is more consistency with those roots in the UK. To read more on these roots, Iain Murray's biography of Lloyd-Jones has a great chapter on this - Volume 2, Ch8.Mike Gilbart-Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-52375776221485278872007-05-04T11:35:00.000-05:002007-05-04T11:35:00.000-05:00Joyfully, IVP-UK brings us John Stott's The Cross ...Joyfully, IVP-UK brings us John Stott's <I>The Cross of Christ</I>, Mark Meynell's <I>Cross-examined</I> and the new <I>Pierced for our Transgressions</I>.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02894433115379089423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-16453914175385922582007-05-04T06:38:00.000-05:002007-05-04T06:38:00.000-05:00Thanks, Dave,I should have picked up on the Britis...Thanks, Dave,<BR/>I should have picked up on the British/US distinction myself. That does make all the difference here, I suspect and Mike's heading is therefore absolutely right.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17759257675723564468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-37652527121701018842007-05-03T03:38:00.000-05:002007-05-03T03:38:00.000-05:00John, I think the issue is that the UCCF is a part...John, I think the issue is that the UCCF is a partner of the <A HREF="http://www.ivpbooks.com" REL="nofollow">IVP-UK</A>... <BR/><BR/>The <A HREF="http://www.ivpress.com/" REL="nofollow">IVP-USA</A> is a different publisher which does have links to the IFES movement. It seems they have somewhat lower standards on many issues, sadly.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02894433115379089423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-42956823023089846142007-05-01T16:13:00.000-05:002007-05-01T16:13:00.000-05:00Mike,I think that your historical link is absolute...Mike,<BR/>I think that your historical link is absolutely right but haven't there been failures? One might wonder how it is that IVP managed to publish Joel Green and Mark Baker, <I>Recovering the Scandal of the Cross: Atonement in New Testament & Contemporary Contexts</I> for example.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17759257675723564468noreply@blogger.com