<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785</id><updated>2012-01-26T06:33:59.901-05:00</updated><category term='bible study'/><category term='Discipleship'/><category term='finance'/><category term='bible'/><category term='choosing a church'/><category term='translation'/><category term='creation'/><category term='College ministry'/><category term='Music'/><category term='Holy Spirit'/><category term='Atonement'/><category term='genesis'/><category term='cartoons'/><category term='Apologetics'/><category term='Evangelism'/><category term='Humour'/><category term='interpretation'/><category term='Preaching'/><category term='evolution'/><category term='Prayer'/><category term='Politics'/><category term='apolgetics'/><category term='Models of Campus Ministry'/><category term='Shepherd&apos;s Conference 2007'/><category term='Occasional Communion'/><category term='Counselling'/><category term='SBTS Collegiate Conference 2007'/><category term='humility'/><category term='pastoral ministry'/><category term='worship'/><category term='culture tradition'/><category term='membership'/><category term='Twynholm'/><category term='UCCF'/><category term='anger'/><category term='Jesus'/><category term='Worldviews'/><category term='review'/><category term='Carols'/><category term='work'/><category term='Top Tips for College Students'/><category term='training'/><category term='science'/><title type='text'>Loving Church</title><subtitle type='html'>Because Jesus calls his church to be loving and his people to love his church.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default?start-index=101&amp;max-results=100'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>197</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-2244122504257431249</id><published>2012-01-26T06:33:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-26T06:33:59.906-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Discipleship'/><title type='text'>What else would you do with 40 minutes on a Sunday morning?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://students.iitgn.ac.in/palantir/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/time_1920x1200.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://students.iitgn.ac.in/palantir/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/time_1920x1200.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Since September we have started a time called '40 minutes' on Sunday mornings at &lt;a href="http://www.twynholm.org/"&gt;Twynholm Baptist Church&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are encouraging people to come to church an hour earlier than normal to take a short course on something that might be doctrinal, practical, ethical or exegetical.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We have just begun the third course. Having completed Christianity Explored and then a great course on personal finances taught by Paul Mills, Leigh Porter has just begun a bible overview course, based on Vaughan Roberts' book, "God's big picture".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Over at 9Marks, Jamie Dunlop has written &lt;a href="http://www.9marks.org/ejournal/how-sunday-school-can-change-your-church%E2%80%99s-culture"&gt;a great little article&lt;/a&gt; about the kinds of ways in which such a slot could be well used to bring about biblical change in the life of a congregation.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-2244122504257431249?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/2244122504257431249/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=2244122504257431249' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2244122504257431249'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2244122504257431249'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2012/01/what-else-would-you-do-with-40-minutes.html' title='What else would you do with 40 minutes on a Sunday morning?'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-2313242092131085991</id><published>2012-01-20T06:48:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-20T06:51:45.582-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Kauflin on using the piano in public worship</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-e2MrXX4xe-k/TxlUUq79YYI/AAAAAAAAA8o/lC3l0LW9lxY/s1600/pg16-bob-kauflin-20100426.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="213" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-e2MrXX4xe-k/TxlUUq79YYI/AAAAAAAAA8o/lC3l0LW9lxY/s320/pg16-bob-kauflin-20100426.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Here's an email I sent to our pianists at church this morning....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Hi Russ, Luke and Joseph.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;I’m preaching on Psalm 95 this Sunday. There’s a lot about music in the first few verses.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;“come let us SING... etc”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;In doing some reading on&amp;nbsp; the blog of my favourite ‘worship leader’ I came across these 3 vids that may be really helpful for you guys.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Listen to them in front of a piano one day!&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.worshipmatters.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/The-Piano-in-Contemporary-Worship-%E2%80%93-Kauflin-FINAL.pdf"&gt;Outline&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/32238075" width="400" height="225" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/32238075"&gt;Piano in Contemporary Worship, Part 1&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/sovgracemin"&gt;Sovereign Grace Ministries&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/32232254?title=0&amp;amp;byline=0" width="400" height="225" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/32232254"&gt;Piano in Contemporary Worship, Part 2&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/sovgracemin"&gt;Sovereign Grace Ministries&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/32239889" width="400" height="225" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/32239889"&gt;Piano in Contemporary Worship, Part 3&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/sovgracemin"&gt;Sovereign Grace Ministries&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Enjoy!&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Thanks brothers for your service in music. As you'll hear on Sunday, singing God's praises wouldn't be the same without music!!&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Mike&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-2313242092131085991?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/2313242092131085991/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=2313242092131085991' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2313242092131085991'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2313242092131085991'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2012/01/kauflin-on-using-piano-in-public.html' title='Kauflin on using the piano in public worship'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-e2MrXX4xe-k/TxlUUq79YYI/AAAAAAAAA8o/lC3l0LW9lxY/s72-c/pg16-bob-kauflin-20100426.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-6589157387420804823</id><published>2012-01-18T06:40:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-18T06:42:46.817-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Great verse for pastor/teachers</title><content type='html'>I've just pinned this verse up on my wall (that's a thing in a room covered in plaster and paint, rather than a thing on a facebook page with lots of random comments), as it is a powerful reminder of the responsibilities before the Lord that those who teach God's word have.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="color: #6fa8dc; font-size: x-large;"&gt;"As for me, far be it from me that I should sin against the LORD by failing to pray for you. And I will teach you the way that is good and right."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;1 Samuel 12:23&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Read it in context &lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20sam%2012&amp;amp;version=NIV1984"&gt;here&amp;nbsp;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-6589157387420804823?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/6589157387420804823/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=6589157387420804823' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/6589157387420804823'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/6589157387420804823'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2012/01/great-verse-for-pastorteachers.html' title='Great verse for pastor/teachers'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-1445051853482439047</id><published>2012-01-11T06:12:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2012-01-11T06:12:21.536-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Seven False Christianities that stint gospel growth</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FZLen6zWayw/Tw1ucjZIEuI/AAAAAAAAA8c/p3ylvOfhjCU/s1600/how+people+change.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FZLen6zWayw/Tw1ucjZIEuI/AAAAAAAAA8c/p3ylvOfhjCU/s200/how+people+change.jpg" width="200" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;I'm off to my &lt;a href="http://www.9marks.org/blog/value-fraternal"&gt;fraternal&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;this morning. we've been reading 'How people change' by Timothy Lane and Ed Welch.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's a few quotes to recommend the book.&lt;br /&gt;Things that easily replace the gospel as 'fake' Christianities&lt;br /&gt;1) Formalism: "The gospel is reduced to participation in the meetings and ministries of the church"&lt;br /&gt;2) Legalism: "Salvation is earned by keeping the rules we've established"&lt;br /&gt;3) Mysticism: "more a pursuit of experience than a pursuit of Christ"&lt;br /&gt;4) Activism: "whenever you believe the evil outside you is greater than the evil inside you, a heartfelt pursuit of Christ will be replace by a zealous fighting of the 'evil' around you."&lt;br /&gt;5) Biblicism: "he has invested a great deal of effort in mastering the Word, but he does not allow the Word to master him.&lt;br /&gt;6) Psycologyism: "sees Christ more as a therapist than a Saviour"&lt;br /&gt;7) Socialism: "The gospel is reduced to a network of fulfilling Christian relationships"&lt;br /&gt;8&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-1445051853482439047?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/1445051853482439047/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=1445051853482439047' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/1445051853482439047'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/1445051853482439047'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2012/01/seven-false-christianities-that-stint.html' title='Seven False Christianities that stint gospel growth'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FZLen6zWayw/Tw1ucjZIEuI/AAAAAAAAA8c/p3ylvOfhjCU/s72-c/how+people+change.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-2139212347537506526</id><published>2011-12-15T11:47:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-15T11:47:30.605-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Reaching Men - Reformation21 Blog</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;Provocative as ever, Levy raises an interesting question here in 200 words.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Thoughts?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.reformation21.org/blog/2011/12/reaching-men.php"&gt;Reaching Men - Reformation21 Blog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;HT: &lt;a href="http://theurbanpastor.wordpress.com/"&gt;Perks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-2139212347537506526?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/2139212347537506526/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=2139212347537506526' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2139212347537506526'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2139212347537506526'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2011/12/reaching-men-reformation21-blog.html' title='Reaching Men - Reformation21 Blog'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-8985637593342416570</id><published>2011-12-08T10:37:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-12-08T10:37:35.928-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Music'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Carols'/><title type='text'>Less well known Carols</title><content type='html'>Putting together the Church's Carol Services over the coming weeks, I'm always on the lookout for Carols that are less well known, with beautiful words and great music.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let's start with the Herefordshire Carol...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/iSofuK4HCrw" width="420"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Great little biblical theology of Fall and Redemption. Great music by Vaughan Willams.&lt;br /&gt;Sadly King College didn't sing all the verses... Here they are.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the truth sent from above&lt;br /&gt;The truth of God, the God of love&lt;br /&gt;Therefore don't turn me from your door&lt;br /&gt;But hearken will both rich and poor&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first thing that I do relate&lt;br /&gt;Is that God did man create&lt;br /&gt;The next thing which to you I'll tell&lt;br /&gt;Woman was made with man to dwell&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And after that, 'twas God's own choice&lt;br /&gt;To place them both in Paradise,&lt;br /&gt;There to remain of evil free&lt;br /&gt;Except they ate of such a tree.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But they did eat, which was a sin,&lt;br /&gt;And so their ruin did begin,&lt;br /&gt;Ruined themselves, both you and me,&lt;br /&gt;And all of their posterity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus we were heirs to endless woes&lt;br /&gt;Till God and Lord did interpose&lt;br /&gt;And so a promise soon did run&lt;br /&gt;That He would redeem us by His Son.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And at that season of the year&lt;br /&gt;Our blessed redeemer did appear.&lt;br /&gt;He here did live and here did preach&lt;br /&gt;And many thousands he did teach.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus He in love to us behaved&lt;br /&gt;To show us how we must be saved.&lt;br /&gt;And if you want to know the way&lt;br /&gt;Be pleased to hear what He did say.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-8985637593342416570?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/8985637593342416570/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=8985637593342416570' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/8985637593342416570'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/8985637593342416570'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2011/12/less-well-known-carols.html' title='Less well known Carols'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://img.youtube.com/vi/iSofuK4HCrw/default.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-313293092806818077</id><published>2011-11-01T09:06:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-11-01T09:06:44.467-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='apolgetics'/><title type='text'>Mark Dever at his best in Q&amp;A</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://baptistbulletin.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Dever_IN.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://baptistbulletin.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Dever_IN.jpg" width="196" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.9marks.org/media/becoming-christian-committing-intellectual-suicide-message-mark-dever"&gt;Great stuff here for a Non-Christian to listen to...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Or great for someone who does Q&amp;amp;A with Non-Christians as a model of humble, brief, engaging and bold answering of honest objections to the gospel.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-313293092806818077?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/313293092806818077/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=313293092806818077' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/313293092806818077'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/313293092806818077'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2011/11/mark-dever-at-his-best-in-q.html' title='Mark Dever at his best in Q&amp;A'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-4639877236657636722</id><published>2011-10-06T17:38:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-10-07T18:15:02.607-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Humour'/><title type='text'>Limerick about sinless perfectionism</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-left: 54.0pt; mso-add-space: auto;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-left: 54pt; text-align: left;"&gt;Preaching on Phil 3:12-20 this Sunday.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-left: 54pt; text-align: left;"&gt;For a lighter moment on 3:12 I thought we'd have a little limerick, inspired by the time when Spurgeon came across someone who claimed to have reached sinless perfection. When Spurgeon trod heavily on his foot his perfection dissolved!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-left: 54pt; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-left: 54pt; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-left: 54pt; text-align: left;"&gt;There once was a man from Tangiers&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt; text-align: left;"&gt;Who said he’d not sinned in ten years.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt; text-align: left;"&gt;So I poked his right eye&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 54pt; text-align: left;"&gt;And his foul mouthed reply&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left: 54pt; text-align: left;"&gt;Shows he’s worse than he sometimes appears&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left: 54.0pt; mso-add-space: auto;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left: 54.0pt; mso-add-space: auto;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-4639877236657636722?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/4639877236657636722/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=4639877236657636722' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/4639877236657636722'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/4639877236657636722'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2011/10/limerick-about-sinless-perfectionism.html' title='Limerick about sinless perfectionism'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-2713874474870167671</id><published>2011-06-24T03:06:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-06-24T03:06:54.382-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelism'/><title type='text'>Great new website</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;I've not read&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Am-I-Really-Christian-9Marks/dp/1433525763/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;amp;ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1308902438&amp;amp;sr=1-1"&gt; the book &lt;/a&gt;yet, but I love Mike McKinley's new &lt;a href="http://www.amireallyachristian.com/"&gt;website&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's the first of seven great little videos. Why not watch them, and choose one to pop on your facebook?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe frameborder="0" height="225" src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/25255504?title=0&amp;amp;byline=0&amp;amp;portrait=0" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/25255504"&gt;What is the Gospel?&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/crosswaymedia"&gt;Crossway&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-2713874474870167671?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/2713874474870167671/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=2713874474870167671' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2713874474870167671'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2713874474870167671'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2011/06/great-new-website.html' title='Great new website'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-401542443059264871</id><published>2011-06-06T13:55:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-06-06T13:55:34.540-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Something to sing about!</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hEvwBPDldY8/Te0ibqajo9I/AAAAAAAAA7A/31htqxFdNJE/s1600/01+Bob+Kauflin_Headshot.125w.tn.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hEvwBPDldY8/Te0ibqajo9I/AAAAAAAAA7A/31htqxFdNJE/s1600/01+Bob+Kauflin_Headshot.125w.tn.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Bob Kauflin give three good reasons that we sing in church in ways that serve the word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #4e461f; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #4e461f; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1) Singing can help us remember words.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #4e461f; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2) Singing can help us engage the words emotionally.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #4e461f; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;3) Singing can help us use words to demonstrate and express our unity.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #4e461f; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Read the whole excellent article &lt;a href="http://www.christianity.com/Home/Christian%20Living%20Features/11627945/page2/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-401542443059264871?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/401542443059264871/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=401542443059264871' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/401542443059264871'/><link rel='self' 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type='text'>Good summary of biblical eldership</title><content type='html'>Just preached on eldership this coming Sunday at Twynholm.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here are a few good resources at looking at the issue further.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good summary&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/resource-library/seminars/biblical-eldership-part-1a#Notes"&gt;From Desiring God&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.9marks.org/ejournal/should-church-have-elders"&gt;Should a church have elders?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.9marks.org/ejournal/what-relationship-between-elders-and-church"&gt;What is the relationship between elders and the church?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-1245777367379617235?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/1245777367379617235/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=1245777367379617235' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/1245777367379617235'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/1245777367379617235'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2011/05/good-summary-of-biblical-eldership.html' title='Good summary of biblical eldership'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-4021021193425970007</id><published>2011-04-15T05:27:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-04-15T05:57:56.439-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelism'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='College ministry'/><title type='text'>Cafe Connect</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uVqE8N85Za0/TagdZH9weFI/AAAAAAAAA68/Ei-P45BQfeA/s1600/Coffeeglobelicense.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uVqE8N85Za0/TagdZH9weFI/AAAAAAAAA68/Ei-P45BQfeA/s1600/Coffeeglobelicense.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;At Twynholm Baptist Church we are launching an international Student Cafe at the end of the Month.&lt;br /&gt;Follow our progress &lt;a href="http://sw6cafe.blogspot.com/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-4021021193425970007?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/4021021193425970007/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=4021021193425970007' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/4021021193425970007'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/4021021193425970007'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2011/04/cafe-connect.html' title='Cafe Connect'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-uVqE8N85Za0/TagdZH9weFI/AAAAAAAAA68/Ei-P45BQfeA/s72-c/Coffeeglobelicense.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-5898032680978929285</id><published>2011-03-18T06:05:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2011-03-18T06:29:50.234-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelism'/><title type='text'>Understanding Twynholm's Mission Field I: Rest</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-GcHfImDDprc/TYNAo1z_dGI/AAAAAAAAA6A/BxTGYpChlsY/s1600/fulham+reach.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-GcHfImDDprc/TYNAo1z_dGI/AAAAAAAAA6A/BxTGYpChlsY/s640/fulham+reach.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-QwjvtqQg9MY/TYNCHnHDKKI/AAAAAAAAA6E/DXmJGKvNnY8/s1600/munster+ward.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-QwjvtqQg9MY/TYNCHnHDKKI/AAAAAAAAA6E/DXmJGKvNnY8/s640/munster+ward.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have tried to encourage the congregation at Twynholm to see our natural mission field in 3 different spheres, based on that memorable 80's advertising slogan.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Work: those who work in the vicinity of our church, or with whom we work&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Rest: those who live near us or near the church&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Play: those we socialise with, or who 'go out' in the vicinity of our church.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;On the "Rest" section, I've been encouraging the congregation to understand who lives in the area.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;It is an excitingly diverse mission field in itself.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Here's the profiles of the two 'wards' right on the doorstep of the church building, and nobody living within these wards would be more than about 10 minutes walk away&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lbhf.gov.uk/Images/Ward%20profile%202010%20-%20Munster_tcm21-73242.pdf"&gt;Munster Ward&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lbhf.gov.uk/Images/Ward%20profile%202010%20-%20Fulham%20Reach_tcm21-73240.pdf"&gt;Fulham Reach&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The four next closest are:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lbhf.gov.uk/Images/Ward%20profile%202010%20-%20North%20End_tcm21-73246.pdf"&gt;North End&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lbhf.gov.uk/Images/Ward%20profile%202010%20-%20Fulham%20Broadway_tcm21-73239.pdf"&gt;Fulham Broadway&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lbhf.gov.uk/Images/Ward%20profile%202010%20-%20Palace%20Riverside_tcm21-73263.pdf"&gt;Palace Riverside&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.lbhf.gov.uk/Images/Ward%20Profile%202010%20-%20Town_tcm21-73250.pdf"&gt;Town Ward&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Each of them would have at least some people living 5-10 minutes walk away.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-5898032680978929285?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/5898032680978929285/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=5898032680978929285' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/5898032680978929285'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/5898032680978929285'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2011/03/understanding-twynholms-mission-field-i.html' title='Understanding Twynholm&apos;s Mission Field I: Rest'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-GcHfImDDprc/TYNAo1z_dGI/AAAAAAAAA6A/BxTGYpChlsY/s72-c/fulham+reach.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-8854412170841654833</id><published>2011-03-18T05:13:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-03-18T05:13:51.075-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Bell's book out yesterday. Deyoung already on the ball</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F_1lJR_UhXE/TYMvc4DmbII/AAAAAAAAA54/P-UM1xpk3qI/s1600/rob_bell02.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F_1lJR_UhXE/TYMvc4DmbII/AAAAAAAAA54/P-UM1xpk3qI/s200/rob_bell02.jpg" width="135" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Rob Bell's book "Love wins" came out yesterday.&lt;br /&gt;The thesis seems to be "If God is a God of love the gate to heaven will always remain open" - even after the last judgement. (Matthew 25:10? cf Genesis 7:16) Eventually everyone will chose that gate. (Matthew 7:13-14?)&lt;br /&gt;Kevin DeYoung has already written a substantial review that is worth reading.&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/files/2011/03/LoveWinsReview.pdf"&gt;http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/files/2011/03/LoveWinsReview.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bell obviously has a following this side of the pond too, with a tour planned for the UK this spring.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.greenbelt.org.uk/love-wins?gclid=CIWSus7t16cCFdFX4Qodij5x9g"&gt;http://www.greenbelt.org.uk/love-wins?gclid=CIWSus7t16cCFdFX4Qodij5x9g&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What sounds like a very comforting message may instead end up patting people on the back, telling them that there is no urgency, and reassure them that all will be fine on the road, which, tragically does in fact lead to an everlasting destruction.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-8854412170841654833?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/8854412170841654833/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=8854412170841654833' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/8854412170841654833'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/8854412170841654833'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2011/03/bells-book-out-yesterday-deyoung.html' title='Bell&apos;s book out yesterday. Deyoung already on the ball'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F_1lJR_UhXE/TYMvc4DmbII/AAAAAAAAA54/P-UM1xpk3qI/s72-c/rob_bell02.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-9143806779958372513</id><published>2011-03-01T05:31:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-03-01T05:31:04.849-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Rob Bell: discussion over. Love wins?</title><content type='html'>Strangely, one of the most read posts on this little read blog has been a little review I did of one of Rob Bell's little nooma vids. In the comments there I was accused of accusing Bell of not believing the good news that Jesus rescues us from the wrath of God by dying in our place upon the cross. If in 22 vids he never teaches that, I suggested that he probably doesn't believe it.&lt;br /&gt;Well, there is sadly no need for speculation any longer.&lt;br /&gt;From his own lips he describes that gospel, the gospel we so desperately need, as not good news at all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;iframe frameborder="0" height="225" src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/20272585?title=0&amp;amp;byline=0&amp;amp;portrait=0&amp;amp;color=66cc85" width="400"&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/20272585"&gt;LOVE WINS.&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/realrobbell"&gt;Rob Bell&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is an advert for his new book "Love wins" that has not yet been released. But how does it win, if it doesn't deal with our greatest problem... making ourselves subjects of God's good and perfect judgement?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I guess he will tell us in the book; but I fear that it will not be such good news after all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Others have blogged about this&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2011/02/26/rob-bell-universalist/"&gt;http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2011/02/26/rob-bell-universalist/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-9143806779958372513?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/9143806779958372513/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=9143806779958372513' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/9143806779958372513'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/9143806779958372513'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2011/03/rob-bell-discussion-over-love-wins.html' title='Rob Bell: discussion over. Love wins?'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-3946611173997225951</id><published>2011-02-24T06:32:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-02-24T06:45:12.062-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Carson on the "therefore" of Matthew 6:25. Why should we not worry?</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="MsoCommentText"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;“&lt;i&gt;Because&lt;/i&gt; transient earthly pleasures do not satisfy and do not last; &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; moral and spiritual vision is easily distorted and darkened, &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; a choice must be made between God and money, &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; the kingdom of God demands unswerving allegiance to its values, &lt;i&gt;therefore&lt;/i&gt; do not worry, and in particular do not worry about mere things.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;But let us consider a more subtle connection.... Jesus has been minimizing the ultimate significance of material possessions; and no doubt not a few among his hearers find themselves wondering "but what about necessities?"... Jesus answers that just as earthly possessions can become an idol which deposes God by becoming disproportionately important, so also can earthly&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;needs&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;become a&amp;nbsp;source&amp;nbsp;of worry which&amp;nbsp;deposes&amp;nbsp;God by fostering distrust."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoCommentText"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-3946611173997225951?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/3946611173997225951/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=3946611173997225951' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3946611173997225951'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3946611173997225951'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2011/02/carson-on-therefore-of-matthew-625-why.html' title='Carson on the &quot;therefore&quot; of Matthew 6:25. Why should we not worry?'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-488159681008795919</id><published>2011-02-14T05:11:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-02-14T05:11:52.635-05:00</updated><title type='text'>“If Only . . .” Living with Regrets | CCEF</title><content type='html'>&lt;div&gt;Good article here on how "living with regrets" can be a kind of inverted pride.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.ccef.org/if-only-living-regrets"&gt;“If Only . . .” Living with Regrets | CCEF&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-488159681008795919?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.ccef.org/if-only-living-regrets' title='“If Only . . .” Living with Regrets | CCEF'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/488159681008795919/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=488159681008795919' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/488159681008795919'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/488159681008795919'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2011/02/if-only-living-with-regrets-ccef.html' title='“If Only . . .” Living with Regrets | CCEF'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-4682049338488022406</id><published>2011-02-13T02:30:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-02-13T02:30:45.720-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The uncontested ruler</title><content type='html'>I think this will be the conclusion to this morning's sermon on Matthew 6:19-24&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;There are celebrations in Cairo this weekend as &lt;span class="apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #505050; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 10.0pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;President Mubarak&lt;/span&gt; has stepped down.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;But we have to admit that it is unclear as yet whether whoever follows him will be any better. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;One day there will be an uncontested ruler.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;There will be no more protests against his rule, not because the citizens of the kingdom have no freedom, but because we will all be able to see perfectly; we will see perfectly that he is the perfect ruler; that he is the one in whom we find our purpose. That he is the one for whom we were made. That he is the one who alone is of infinite and lasting value. That he may for ever be our treasure.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Do you treasure Him?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Do you see everything in His shaddow?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Is He your master?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-4682049338488022406?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/4682049338488022406/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=4682049338488022406' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/4682049338488022406'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/4682049338488022406'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2011/02/uncontested-ruler.html' title='The uncontested ruler'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-8298836317989396549</id><published>2011-02-04T05:24:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2011-02-04T05:24:52.478-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Carson on our propensity for hypocrisy. Matthew 6:1</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: &amp;quot;Verdana&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;"&gt;“We human beings are a strange lot. We hear high moral injunctions and glimpse just a little the genuine beauty of perfect holiness, and then prostitute the vision by dreaming about the way others would hold us in high esteem if we were like that. The demand for genuine perfection loses itself in the lesser goal of external piety; the goal of pleasing the Father is traded for its pygmy cousin, the goal of pleasing man. It almost seems as if the greater the demand for holiness, the greater the opportunity for hypocrisy.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="apple-converted-space"&gt;&lt;span style="color: black; font-family: &amp;quot;Verdana&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 11.5pt; line-height: 115%; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-language: EN-US;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-8298836317989396549?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/8298836317989396549/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=8298836317989396549' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/8298836317989396549'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/8298836317989396549'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2011/02/carson-on-our-propensity-for-hypocrisy.html' title='Carson on our propensity for hypocrisy. Matthew 6:1'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-4166332992686642311</id><published>2011-01-22T02:13:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-01-22T02:13:05.069-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Brief Theology of Work</title><content type='html'>This morning we have a mens breakfast at Twynholm where I'm speaking on a biblical view of work, so I've been going over some old notes.&lt;br /&gt;This is a little &lt;a href="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19071330/Theology%20of%20Work.doc"&gt;theology of work &lt;/a&gt;I wrote a few years ago.&lt;br /&gt;Sometime soon I'd like to revise it, expanding the section on "Frustration and Redemption" by looking in more depth at the "Work of Christ" in Redemption. But I hope it is useful in its present form.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-4166332992686642311?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/4166332992686642311/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=4166332992686642311' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/4166332992686642311'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/4166332992686642311'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2011/01/brief-theology-of-work.html' title='Brief Theology of Work'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-573487935879586762</id><published>2011-01-21T17:25:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-01-21T17:25:21.062-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Matthew 5:21-32. Further Reading on Anger, Lust and Divorce</title><content type='html'>&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;Anger.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Three very helpful articles available by David Powlison.&lt;a href="http://issuu.com/gospeldelta/docs/anger--pt1----david-powlison"&gt;Part 1&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://issuu.com/gospeldelta/docs/anger--pt2----david-powlison"&gt;Part 2&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://issuu.com/gospeldelta/docs/anger--pt3----david-powlison"&gt;Part 3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Great book on Resolving Personal conflict: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Peacemaker-Biblical-Resolving-Personal-Conflict/dp/0801064856/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1295647350&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;The Peacemaker&lt;/a&gt;, by Ken Sande.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;Lust&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good book on Lust for men and women: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sex-Problem-Lust-Joshua-Harris/dp/1590525191/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1295647445&amp;amp;sr=1-1"&gt;Sex is not the problem, Lust is&lt;/a&gt; by Josh Harris&lt;br /&gt;Helpful online book on pornography for men: &lt;a href="http://issuu.com/gospeldelta/docs/sexual_detox_-_tim_challies"&gt;Sexual detox: a guide for guys who are sick of porn&lt;/a&gt; by Tim Challies&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;Divorce&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/DIVORCE-MURRAY-JOHN/dp/0875523447/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1295648049&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;Divorce&lt;/a&gt;, by John Murray&lt;br /&gt;Good book for those who grew up with divorce understanding ways in which it might have affected them, and taking them to the gospel. &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Child-Divorce-God-Kristine-Steakley/dp/0830834710/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1295647899&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;Child of divorce, Child of God&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;by Kristine Steakly. She also has a &lt;a href="http://childofdivorce-childofgod.blogspot.com/"&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: large;"&gt;Marriage &lt;/span&gt;(obviously closely related to lust and to divorce, as the former is a distortion of what was intended for marriage and the latter is trying to escape God's good plans for marriage). In recent years there have been several excellent books written on marriage.&lt;br /&gt;Chrisopher Ash, &lt;a href="http://www.thegoodbook.co.uk/married-for-god"&gt;Married for God&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gary and Betsy Ricucci, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Love-That-Lasts-Betsy-Ricucci/dp/1581347820/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;amp;ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1295648610&amp;amp;sr=1-1"&gt;Love that Lasts&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dave Harvey, &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/WHEN-SINNERS-SAY-I-DO/dp/0976758261/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1295648584&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;When Sinners Say, "I do"&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-573487935879586762?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/573487935879586762/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=573487935879586762' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/573487935879586762'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/573487935879586762'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2011/01/matthew-521-32-further-reading-on-anger.html' title='Matthew 5:21-32. Further Reading on Anger, Lust and Divorce'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-357825440635549561</id><published>2011-01-20T11:31:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2011-01-20T11:33:55.967-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Jesus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='anger'/><title type='text'>Don Carson on anger: ours and Jesus'</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://ccass.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/don_carson.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="214" src="http://ccass.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/don_carson.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;“Our problem is that we burn with indignation and anger, not at sin and injustice, but at offence to ourselves. In none of the cases when Jesus becomes angry is his personal ego wrapped up in the issue. More telling yet, when &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;he&lt;/i&gt; was unjustly arrested, unfairly tried, illegally beaten, contemptuously spat upon, crucified, mocked; when in fact he had every reason for his ego to be involved, then, as Peter says, ‘he did not retaliate; when he suffered he made no threats.’ (I Peter 2:23) From his parched lips came forth rather those gracious words, ‘Father forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing’ (Luke 23:34) ”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 15px; line-height: 17px;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Sermon on the Mount, &lt;/i&gt;46-47.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-357825440635549561?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/357825440635549561/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=357825440635549561' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/357825440635549561'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/357825440635549561'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2011/01/don-carson-on-anger.html' title='Don Carson on anger: ours and Jesus&apos;'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-9162086143439263385</id><published>2011-01-11T05:13:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2011-01-11T05:13:50.963-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='bible study'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preaching'/><title type='text'>Great Reading for the Sermon on the Mount</title><content type='html'>Just started preaching on the Sermon on the Mount yesterday.&lt;br /&gt;Sermon available &lt;a href="http://www.twynholm.org/index.php/component/sermonspeaker/singlesermon/10080"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Three great books to recommend to accompany the series&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Small: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sermon-Mount-Evangelical-Exposition-Biblical/dp/0853646074/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1294679755&amp;amp;sr=8-2"&gt;Don Carson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Medium: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Christian-Counter-culture-Message-Sermon-Mount/dp/085110584X/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&amp;amp;ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1294740685&amp;amp;sr=1-4"&gt;John Stott&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Large: &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Studies-Sermon-Mount-Martyn-Lloyd-Jones/dp/0851105831/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;amp;ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1294680040&amp;amp;sr=1-1"&gt;Martyn Lloyd-Jones&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you come to our &lt;a href="http://www.twynholm.org/"&gt;Sunday evening Services&lt;/a&gt; over the next couple of weeks there will be some copies of some of these books being given away for free for those who are quick a sticking their hand in the air at the appropriate moment!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-9162086143439263385?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/9162086143439263385/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=9162086143439263385' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/9162086143439263385'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/9162086143439263385'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2011/01/great-reading-for-sermon-on-mount.html' title='Great Reading for the Sermon on the Mount'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-2316005640997510673</id><published>2010-12-10T16:44:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2010-12-10T16:44:52.061-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Too funny... is this cabbie in your congregation?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/the-story-of-a-friends-cab-ride-in-london"&gt;http://www.desiringgod.org/blog/posts/the-story-of-a-friends-cab-ride-in-london&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-2316005640997510673?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/2316005640997510673/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=2316005640997510673' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2316005640997510673'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2316005640997510673'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/12/too-funny-is-this-cabbie-in-your.html' title='Too funny... is this cabbie in your congregation?'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-664097374448080034</id><published>2010-11-25T11:59:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-11-25T16:29:15.215-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Esther 1-2 wordle</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.wordle.net/show/wrdl/2790755/Esther_1-2_NIV" title="Wordle: Esther 1-2 NIV"&gt;&lt;img alt="Wordle: Esther 1-2 NIV" height="300" src="http://www.wordle.net/thumb/wrdl/2790755/Esther_1-2_NIV" style="border-bottom-color: rgb(221, 221, 221); border-bottom-style: solid; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(221, 221, 221); border-left-style: solid; border-left-width: 1px; border-right-color: rgb(221, 221, 221); border-right-style: solid; border-right-width: 1px; border-top-color: rgb(221, 221, 221); border-top-style: solid; border-top-width: 1px; padding-bottom: 4px; padding-left: 4px; padding-right: 4px; padding-top: 4px;" width="400" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We start looking at Esther this coming Lord's Day at Twynholm Baptist Church.&lt;br /&gt;Interesting that the wordle of Esther 1-2 shows us how the world is often seen. The decisions of kings and nobles is in the forefront of who seems to be in control of this world.The hand of God is unseen; he is never mentioned in the whole book, but he is clearly in control.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-664097374448080034?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/664097374448080034/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=664097374448080034' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/664097374448080034'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/664097374448080034'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/11/esther-1-2-wordle.html' title='Esther 1-2 wordle'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-2467646051296157472</id><published>2010-11-24T07:40:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-11-24T07:41:05.617-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Lausanne with Lig</title><content type='html'>On Sunday night at Twynholm we prayed for lasting fruit at the Lausanne Conference.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's a great little debrief from Lig Duncan&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object style="height: 390px; width: 640px;"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/rjNovQtKnh4?version=3"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/rjNovQtKnh4?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;HT: &lt;a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/thabitianyabwile/2010/11/16/debriefing-lausanne-with-ligon-duncan-and-derek-thomas/"&gt;Thabiti Anyabwile&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-2467646051296157472?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/2467646051296157472/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=2467646051296157472' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2467646051296157472'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2467646051296157472'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/11/lausanne-with-lig.html' title='Lausanne with Lig'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-4930950376745852313</id><published>2010-11-08T10:03:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-11-08T10:03:38.512-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Narnia Night with Michael Ward: November 19th, 2010</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6.0pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 88.25pt; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.michaelward.net/assets/images/454/733qmt/7_Dr_Michael_Ward-1.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="400" src="http://www.michaelward.net/assets/images/454/733qmt/7_Dr_Michael_Ward-1.jpg" width="287" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 16pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;The Revd. Dr. Michael Ward will be speaking about C.S.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!--[if gte vml 1]&gt;&lt;v:shapetype id="_x0000_t75" coordsize="21600,21600" o:spt="75" o:preferrelative="t" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" filled="f" stroked="f"&gt;  &lt;v:stroke joinstyle="miter"/&gt;  &lt;v:formulas&gt;   &lt;v:f eqn="if lineDrawn pixelLineWidth 0"/&gt;   &lt;v:f eqn="sum @0 1 0"/&gt;   &lt;v:f eqn="sum 0 0 @1"/&gt;   &lt;v:f eqn="prod @2 1 2"/&gt;   &lt;v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelWidth"/&gt;   &lt;v:f eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelHeight"/&gt;   &lt;v:f eqn="sum @0 0 1"/&gt;   &lt;v:f eqn="prod @6 1 2"/&gt;   &lt;v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelWidth"/&gt;   &lt;v:f eqn="sum @8 21600 0"/&gt;   &lt;v:f eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelHeight"/&gt;   &lt;v:f eqn="sum @10 21600 0"/&gt;  &lt;/v:formulas&gt;  &lt;v:path o:extrusionok="f" gradientshapeok="t" o:connecttype="rect"/&gt;  &lt;o:lock v:ext="edit" aspectratio="t"/&gt; &lt;/v:shapetype&gt;&lt;v:shape id="_x0000_s1026" type="#_x0000_t75" alt="" style='position:absolute; margin-left:648.5pt;margin-top:20.8pt;width:145.75pt;height:201.6pt;z-index:251658240'&gt;  &lt;v:imagedata src="file:///C:\Users\MIKE&amp;amp;H~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\01\clip_image001.jpg"  o:href="http://www.michaelward.net/assets/images/454/733qmt/7_Dr_Michael_Ward-1.jpg"/&gt; &lt;/v:shape&gt;&lt;![endif]--&gt;&lt;!--[if !vml]--&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6.0pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 88.25pt; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 16pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Lewis, his imaginative world and why Narnia has been able to captivate generations of readers.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6.0pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 123.7pt; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 16pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;Dr. Ward is a world renowned expert on &lt;br /&gt;C.S. Lewis, the author of “Planet Narnia” &lt;br /&gt;and the inspiration behind the BBC Documentary, “The Narnia Code”. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6.0pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 159.3pt; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 16pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;He currently serves as Chaplain of &lt;br /&gt;St Peter’s College, Oxford.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: white; font-family: 'Bernard MT Condensed', serif;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6.0pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 159.3pt; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 21px; line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6.0pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 159.3pt; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 21px; line-height: 24px;"&gt;Programme:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 6.0pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 159.3pt; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 21px; line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: x-large;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Bernard MT Condensed&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 20.0pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;6:30pm &lt;span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Talk and Q&amp;amp;A for Children.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: x-large;"&gt;  &lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Bernard MT Condensed&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 20.0pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;7-8pm&lt;span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Talk for Adults &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Bernard MT Condensed&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 20.0pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;7-9pm&lt;span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt; Narnia video for Children&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; text-indent: -72.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Bernard MT Condensed&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 20.0pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;8-9pm&lt;span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Q&amp;amp;A, Book signing and refreshments&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; text-indent: -72.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Bernard MT Condensed&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 20.0pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;Venue: &lt;span style="mso-tab-count: 1;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Twynholm Baptist Church, &lt;br /&gt;324 Lillie Road, London SW6 7PP&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; text-indent: -72.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Bernard MT Condensed&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 20.0pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;For more info visit &lt;u&gt;www.twynholm.org&amp;nbsp;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; text-indent: -72.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Bernard MT Condensed&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;serif&amp;quot;; 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text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.kingsway.co.uk/assets/Uploads/Stuart-Townend-Banner-2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="180" src="http://www.kingsway.co.uk/assets/Uploads/Stuart-Townend-Banner-2.jpg" width="640" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Stuart Townend on Corporate Worship: seminar given today at Oak Hill College&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;The "A.R.T. of Corporate worship"&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h1&gt;A. ADORATION&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;1)&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The need for both objective and subjective&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;a.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Objective reflection on the character and work of God&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;b.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Subjective emotional response to those truths&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;c.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Great to have had in the last 30 years more songs that have an emotional subjective element... these have caused us getting excited about the experience of worship, but the danger is that my experience of worship becomes the &amp;nbsp;focus of the song, rather than the songs really being the act of worship by reflecting upon the character of God.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;2)&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Truth in songs&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;a.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Teaches us theology&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;i.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;More people learn their theology through songs than through sermons&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;ii.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;More likely you leave church humming a song than reciting the sermon!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;iii.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;So we must ask the question: what sort of picture do our songs teach us about God?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;iv.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Full range of the characteristics of God: not just his love, but also his justice, his holiness etc.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;v.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Look at 3 months worth of your songs sung in church: are you choosing songs that reflect the breadth of the character of God&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;b.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Gives a solid foundation for living&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;i.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Do your songs reflect the reality of the world in which we live?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;ii.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Look at the life of Paul... the truth speaks into the troubles of life.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 144.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level4 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;1.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;For I know that these present sufferings..&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 144.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level4 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;2.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Consider yourself dead to sin but alive to righteousness&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;iii.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Songs must put the reality of the different experiences of life in the perspective of the reality of the character and promises of God. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;iv.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Cf Psalm 22. The struggle between the present circumstances and the knowledge of God. “Am I going to believe God’s promises or give way to the difficulties of circumstances?”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;v.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Jesus’ instruction sending out the 72... Luke 10:20... they are hugely excited about the experience that they have: Jesus says their joy should be grounded in the reality of the gospel not experience.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;c.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Tells the story&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;i.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Faith is not routed in dislocated ideas, but in history. We have a story to tell, and so there must be songs that tell the story.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;ii.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Too few songs tell the story.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;iii.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Story telling songs are great in evangelistic circumstances: non-Christians can sing “From the squalor of a borrowed stable” but cannot sing “I love you Lord” without lying.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;3)&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Leading Congregational Worship&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;a.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Remind people of the basis for entering in.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;i.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Not our feelings&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;ii.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The basis is what God has done in Christ, and who &lt;br /&gt;God is.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;iii.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;We want to undermine the idea, “I couldn’t come to church today because I was in a mess, and I need to clean myself up before I can enter God’s presence”. No! We come to him to be cleaned up.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;b.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Must start with truth-declaring songs. We mustn’t try and set a ‘vibe’ with a song, but have the truth set the mode.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;c.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Must encourage an expectancy that God will be revealing himself as we come together to worship.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;4)&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In personal Worship&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;a.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Thanksgiving&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;i.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;True worshippers of God habitually give thanks to God. Idolators are those who “neither glorify him as God or give thanks to him.” (rom 1:21)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;ii.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Appreciation: not merely saying thankyou to God, but reflecting and exploring the goodness of what he gives&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;iii.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Declaring God’s goodness to others (Ps 40:3)&lt;br /&gt;Talking more openly with others about our thankfulness towards God for his work in our lives&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;5)&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Worship in Spirit&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;a.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Worship is not dependent upon place or ceremony (John 4)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;i.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;We can think about rituals or things that we do that ‘create’ worship&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 144.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level4 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;1.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;“Must be quiet and reflective”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 144.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level4 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;2.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;“We must really be ‘going for it’ in song&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 144.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level4 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;3.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Lifting hands in great emotion&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;ii.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Going into the ‘sanctuary’, the ‘holy place where he dwells’&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;b.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Worship is a response of the heart&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;c.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Worship is on God’s terms and not ours&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;i.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The danger of a consumeristic ‘this is my worship preference’ approach to worship.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;ii.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Those who lead worship are called to please God and serve the people, not just serve God and please the people.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level3 lfo1; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;iii.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;This means that we will sometimes do things that will &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;displease&lt;/i&gt; the congregation, but please God. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l0 level2 lfo1; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;d.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Worship is Spirit-led and Spirit empowered&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h1&gt;R. REVELATION&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo2; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;1)&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;God is a God of self-Revelation&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l3 level2 lfo2; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;a.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Revealed in Creation&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l3 level2 lfo2; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;b.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Revealed in Christ&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l3 level2 lfo2; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;c.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Revealed in Word&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l3 level2 lfo2; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;d.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Revealed in our lives&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l3 level2 lfo2; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;e.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The danger is that we so rely upon the means of revelation (songs, scriptures etc) that we do not look to the Spirit of revelation to &lt;i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal;"&gt;use&lt;/i&gt; those means that he would reveal the Father and the Son.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="mso-list: l3 level1 lfo2; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;2)&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Looking for God’s revelation..&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l3 level2 lfo2; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;a.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In our preparation:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; praying for God’s help as we put the song together&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l3 level3 lfo2; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;i.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Matt Redman, prefers the term “Lead worshipper” rather than “worship leader”. The Holy Spirit is the “worship leader”.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l3 level3 lfo2; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;ii.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Thinking and praying through the journey of a service that would flow and allow the Holy Spirit to be working.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l3 level2 lfo2; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;b.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In our leading: the need to be flexible to what the Spirit is doing, so that we can follow what the Spirit is revealing to his people&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 72.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l3 level2 lfo2; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;c.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;From God’s people.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left: 108.0pt; mso-add-space: auto; mso-list: l3 level3 lfo2; mso-text-indent-alt: -9.0pt; text-indent: -108.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;i.&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In a context where others may lead in prayer or prophecy, being ready to be flexible as to how to move on from there with songs rather than thinking that their contribution is a diversion from the journey the Spirit is taking people upon.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h1&gt;T. TRANSFORMATION&lt;/h1&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-left: 0cm; mso-add-space: auto;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="mso-list: l2 level1 lfo3; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;1)&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Unconsciously: the experience of worship affects us – we come out of church experiencing and being more patient, more Christlike.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="mso-list: l2 level1 lfo3; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;2)&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Renewing of minds. (Romans 12:1-3)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="mso-list: l2 level1 lfo3; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;3)&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Sharpening of our consciences&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="mso-list: l2 level1 lfo3; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;4)&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Preparation to receive the word of God, so that when the preacher stands and preaches, our hearts are ready to receive.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 0cm; mso-add-space: auto;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-left: 0cm; mso-add-space: auto;"&gt;Other comments in the Q&amp;amp;A&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="mso-list: l1 level1 lfo4; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;-&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Important to realise that ‘worship leading’ is delegated responsibility from church leadership. There is a need for the elders to have knowledge and responsibility for what goes on in the Sunday service, so that if the worship leader gets a phonecall over Sunday lunch saying “why did we sing that song?” the worship leader can say, “the pastor said it was fine, so you need to speak to him.”&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="mso-list: l1 level1 lfo4; text-indent: -18.0pt;"&gt;-&lt;span style="font: normal normal normal 7pt/normal 'Times New Roman';"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Really important to work with the musicians you have rather than try to ‘create a sound’ that you may not have.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-953885223957308855?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/953885223957308855/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=953885223957308855' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/953885223957308855'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/953885223957308855'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/11/notes-from-stuart-townend-seminar-on.html' title='Notes from Stuart Townend seminar on leading Corporate worship'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-2711079897070605405</id><published>2010-11-02T10:16:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-11-02T10:18:14.310-05:00</updated><title type='text'>How Members Can Serve the Church on Sunday Morning</title><content type='html'>Great little list of things that every church meember can do to serve more faithfully every Sunday...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.9marks.org/blog/how-members-can-serve-church-sunday-morning?sms_ss=blogger&amp;amp;at_xt=4cd02b4d804f380a,0"&gt;How Members Can Serve the Church on Sunday Morning&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-2711079897070605405?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/2711079897070605405/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=2711079897070605405' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2711079897070605405'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2711079897070605405'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/11/how-members-can-serve-church-on-sunday.html' title='How Members Can Serve the Church on Sunday Morning'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-6990553954092873960</id><published>2010-10-23T15:58:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2010-10-23T16:04:00.548-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The circularity of atheism and the argument of irrefutable testimony</title><content type='html'>There is a huge amount of circularity in much atheistic thinking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It goes something like this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. It is fair to assume that there is no God because there is no compelling evidence [though they often prefer to use the lower case 'g' - perhaps we should refer to "richard dawkins"]&lt;br /&gt;2. The resurrection of Jesus Christ is not compelling evidence for the existence of God&amp;nbsp;because&amp;nbsp;it is not from reliable sources&lt;br /&gt;3. The sources are unreliable&amp;nbsp;because&amp;nbsp;they believe in the possibility of the miraculous&lt;br /&gt;4. Miracles can only happen if there is a God.&lt;br /&gt;5. Therefore the miraculous cannot happen because it is fair to assume that there is no God&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thus the assumption that there is no God a priori rules out any evidence to the contrary.&lt;br /&gt;Dawkins, for example says "‘accounts of Jesus’ resurrection are about as well documented as Jack and the Beanstalk’.'" Yet, I have never heard of him seriously interacting with those accounts. I would love to hear Dawkins attempt to try to refute the historicity of the gospel accounts.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the things I find so compelling about the gospel accounts of the&amp;nbsp;resurrection&amp;nbsp;is that the&amp;nbsp;disciples&amp;nbsp;are not presented as people who think that things like resurrections happen! As D.A. Carson points out, they are not sitting in the upper room on Friday evening saying, "I'm so excited, I can't wait until Sunday." They are despondent, disillusioned and fearful. They were as surprised by the resurrection as I think Dawkins would be. So much so that when 10 of them try to persuade the one who wasn't there that Jesus is alive, he says that &amp;nbsp;he will not believe unless he not only Sees Jesus, but puts his fingers in the nail marks and his hand in Jesus' rather unique wound in his side. As it happens, seeing is enough.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Through history there have been many who have said that they would not believe unless they saw with their own eyes: but then for them, in the end, hearing has been enough: hearing about Thomas who should have believed on the testimony of 10 eyewitnesses, but didn't.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As much as we can, let's start moving our conversations with Non-Christians away from the details of irreducible complexity and intelligent design to irrefutable testimony.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: #555555; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Verdana; font-size: small;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 20px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-6990553954092873960?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/6990553954092873960/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=6990553954092873960' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/6990553954092873960'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/6990553954092873960'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/10/circularity-of-much-popular-atheistic.html' title='The circularity of atheism and the argument of irrefutable testimony'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-6796275716181382435</id><published>2010-10-21T06:01:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-10-21T06:15:40.947-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='training'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preaching'/><title type='text'>First two preachers' classes outlined</title><content type='html'>Here are the outlines of the first two preachers' classes. The first is pretty much 9Marks material.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Session 1: What is expository preaching&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&amp;nbsp;Introduction to the Class&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;What is the format of the class?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Reading a sermon from a well-known preacher&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Seminar&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Workshop&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Why have the class?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;What is preaching?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Why is preaching so important?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;What’s missing from much preaching?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;2. Defining Expositional Preaching&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;"An expositional sermon is a sermon in which the point of the Scriptural text is the point of the sermon applied to the life of the church today."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. What expositional Preaching includes&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Bible&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Books of the Bible&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Whole Bible&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Testaments and Genres.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Scope.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Bible’s Storyline&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Gospel&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;God&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Man&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Christ&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Response&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Seeing the Gospel through the lens of the text and the text through the lens of the gospel&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Systematic Theology&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Worldviews&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Evangelism&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;The Preparation of the Saints&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Session 2: Why Expository Preaching?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Intro: The alternatives seem so appealing!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;There are basic truths that need teaching&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Better to have Doctrinal sermons?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;May seem to “teach the whole counsel of God” more quickly and thoroughly&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;There are obvious issues that need addressing&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Better to have Topical sermons?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;May seem more obviously relevant to people&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;May seem to deal with issues in the church quicker&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;The difference between food and medicine&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Expository preaching tends towards a balanced diet; doctrinal / topical preaching may have quicker effects, and is therefore sometimes useful, but provide a bad overall diet.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;div&gt;Five reasons to make expository preaching the main diet of a congregation.&lt;/div&gt;A.&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Expository preaching preaches the whole bible&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;2 Tim 3:16-17&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Acts 20:17-31&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;B.&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Expository Preaching understands the limits of the preacher&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Preachers are ignorant, God is omniscient&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Preachers are foolish, God is wise&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Preachers are sinful, God is perfect&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Preachers are under authority, the bible carries God’s authority&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;C.&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Expository preaching encourages Berean listening&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Acts 17:10-12&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;D.&lt;span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Expository Preaching models faithful bible reading.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;We read the bible&lt;/li&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;To understand it&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;To have it ask us questions as much as we ask it questions&amp;nbsp;Job 38:1-3&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;E. Expository Preaching keeps the church healthy&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;the testimony of church history&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-6796275716181382435?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/6796275716181382435/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=6796275716181382435' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/6796275716181382435'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/6796275716181382435'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/10/first-two-preachers-classes-outlined.html' title='First two preachers&apos; classes outlined'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-4925882043657782918</id><published>2010-10-20T06:42:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-10-20T08:35:33.982-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Pray for gospel witness in Fulham after stabbing outside our church</title><content type='html'>There have been a series of stabbings in Fulham over the last year. On Sunday night, during our evening service, &lt;a href="http://www.fulhamchronicle.co.uk/fulham-and-hammersmith-news/2010/10/20/second-tragedy-for-henry-compton-school-as-it-emerges-stabbed-boy-was-pupil-there-82029-27509391/"&gt;a 15 year old boy was stabbed &lt;/a&gt;right opposite our Church building. He's now fighting for his life. Pray for him and pray that the gospel would shine brightly in Fulham&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-4925882043657782918?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/4925882043657782918/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=4925882043657782918' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/4925882043657782918'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/4925882043657782918'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/10/pray-for-gospel-witness-in-fulham-after.html' title='Pray for gospel witness in Fulham after stabbing outside our church'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-3456177224275562007</id><published>2010-10-19T08:58:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-10-19T08:58:27.402-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Great quote from Augustine on variation in style in preaching</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.prca.org/books/portraits/300px-Augustine_of_Hippo.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://www.prca.org/books/portraits/300px-Augustine_of_Hippo.jpg" width="237" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 24px;"&gt;51. But we are not to suppose that it is against rule to mingle these various styles: on the contrary, every variety of style should be introduced so far as is consistent with good taste. For when we keep monotonously to one style, we fail to retain the hearer's attention; but when we pass from one style to another, the discourse goes off more gracefully, even though it extend to greater length. Each separate style, again, has varieties of its own which prevent the hearer's attention from cooling or becoming languid. We can bear the subdued style, however, longer without variety than the majestic style. For the mental emotion which it is necessary to stir up in order to carry the hearer's feelings with us, when once it has been sufficiently excited, the higher the pitch to which it is raised, can be maintained the shorter time. And therefore we must be on our guard, lest, in striving to carry to a higher point the emotion we have excited, we rather lose what we have already gained. But after the interposition of matter that we have to treat in a quieter style, we can return with good effect to that which must be treated forcibly, thus making the tide of eloquence to ebb and flow like the sea. It follows from this, that the majestic style, if it is to be long continued, ought not to be unvaried, but should alternate at intervals with the other styles; the speech or writing as a whole, however, being referred to that style which is the prevailing one.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 24px;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; line-height: 24px;"&gt;Read more &lt;a href="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/augustine/doctrine.xxiii_3.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-3456177224275562007?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/3456177224275562007/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=3456177224275562007' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3456177224275562007'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3456177224275562007'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/10/great-quote-from-augustine-on-variation.html' title='Great quote from Augustine on variation in style in preaching'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-3763937446058730728</id><published>2010-10-14T04:37:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2010-10-14T04:59:36.954-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='training'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preaching'/><title type='text'>Preaching class at Twynholm Baptist</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2Ux7wR8QfFg/TLbPOZVBwgI/AAAAAAAAA4g/O6wQGjq79qA/s1600/PulpitRock%5B1%5D.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="240" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2Ux7wR8QfFg/TLbPOZVBwgI/AAAAAAAAA4g/O6wQGjq79qA/s320/PulpitRock%5B1%5D.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Next Wednesday sees the second of our monthly Preachers' Classes here at Twynholm.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's the outline of the course we are planning&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;Year 1&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align="left" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="MsoNormalTable" style="border-collapse: collapse; border: none; margin-left: 6.75pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-insideh: .5pt solid windowtext; mso-border-insidev: .5pt solid windowtext; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-table-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-table-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-table-left: left; mso-table-lspace: 9.0pt; mso-table-rspace: 9.0pt; mso-table-top: 5.45pt;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-firstrow: yes; mso-yfti-irow: 0;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: 5.45pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;September&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-left: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: 5.45pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Expository Preaching   I: What?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 1;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: 5.45pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;October&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: 5.45pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Expository Preaching   II: Why?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 2;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: 5.45pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;November&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: 5.45pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Expository Preaching   III: Imposters&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 3;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: 5.45pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;January&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: 5.45pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Sermon Preparation:   Overview&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 4;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: 5.45pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;February&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: 5.45pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Sermon Preparation:   Understanding the Text I&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 5;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: 5.45pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;March&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: 5.45pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Sermon Preparation:   Understanding the Text II&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 6;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: 5.45pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;April&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: 5.45pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Sermon Preparation:   Biblical Theology&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 7;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: 5.45pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;May&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: 5.45pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Sermon Preparation:   Key Sentence&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 8; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: 5.45pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;June&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: 5.45pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Sermon Preparation:   Outlines&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;Year 2&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align="left" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="MsoNormalTable" style="border-collapse: collapse; border: none; margin-left: 6.75pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-insideh: .5pt solid windowtext; mso-border-insidev: .5pt solid windowtext; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-table-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-table-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-table-left: left; mso-table-lspace: 9.0pt; mso-table-rspace: 9.0pt; mso-table-top: .7pt;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-firstrow: yes; mso-yfti-irow: 0;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;September&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-left: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Sermon Preparation:   Explanation and style&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 1;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;October&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Sermon Preparation:   Application I&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 2;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;November&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Sermon Preparation:   Application II&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 3;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;December&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Sermon Preparation:   Illustration&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 4;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;January&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Sermon Preparation:   Introduction&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 5;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;February&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Sermon Preparation:   Conclusion and Prayer&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 6;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;March&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Self Preparation: Prayer&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 7;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;April&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Self Preparation: Fear &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 8;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;May&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Sermon Delivery: Passion   and Exhortation&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 9; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;June&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Sermon Delivery: Use of   Notes&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;Year 3&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table align="left" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="MsoNormalTable" style="border-collapse: collapse; border: none; margin-left: 6.75pt; margin-right: 6.75pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-insideh: .5pt solid windowtext; mso-border-insidev: .5pt solid windowtext; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-table-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-table-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-table-left: left; mso-table-lspace: 9.0pt; mso-table-rspace: 9.0pt; mso-table-top: .7pt;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-firstrow: yes; mso-yfti-irow: 0;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;September&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-left: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Sermon Delivery: Face,   pace and space.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 1;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;October&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Sermon Delivery: Ten   ways to be boring.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 2;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;November&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Sermons within the life   of the congregation&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 3;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;December&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Preaching as a sinner   standing in the place of God&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 4;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;January&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Planning an Expository   Series &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 5;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;February&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Doctrinal Preaching&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 6;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;March&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Evangelistic Preaching&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 7;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;April&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Topical Preaching &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 8;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;May&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Conversational or Narrative   Preaching?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="height: 19.85pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; mso-yfti-irow: 9; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid windowtext 1.0pt; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 68.85pt;" valign="top" width="92"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 8.7pt; mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;June&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid windowtext 1.0pt; border-top: none; height: 19.85pt; mso-border-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid windowtext .5pt; mso-height-rule: exactly; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 236.55pt;" valign="top" width="315"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="mso-element-anchor-horizontal: margin; mso-element-anchor-vertical: paragraph; mso-element-frame-hspace: 9.0pt; mso-element-top: .7pt; mso-element-wrap: around; mso-element: frame; mso-height-rule: exactly;"&gt;Concluding Reflections&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;&lt;br clear="all" style="mso-special-character: line-break; page-break-before: always;" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; line-height: 115%;"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;b style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal;"&gt;Make-up of each session&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;table border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="MsoNormalTable" style="border-collapse: collapse; border: none; mso-border-alt: solid black .5pt; mso-border-insideh: .5pt solid black; mso-border-insidev: .5pt solid black; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-yfti-tbllook: 1184;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr style="mso-yfti-firstrow: yes; mso-yfti-irow: 0;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border: solid black 1.0pt; mso-border-alt: solid black .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 231.05pt;" valign="top" width="308"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;8pm&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-left: none; border: solid black 1.0pt; mso-border-alt: solid black .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid black .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 231.05pt;" valign="top" width="308"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Reading An extract from a great sermon&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 1;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid black 1.0pt; mso-border-alt: solid black .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid black .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 231.05pt;" valign="top" width="308"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;8:15&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid black 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid black 1.0pt; border-top: none; mso-border-alt: solid black .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid black .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid black .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 231.05pt;" valign="top" width="308"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Seminar&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 2;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid black 1.0pt; mso-border-alt: solid black .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid black .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 231.05pt;" valign="top" width="308"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;9:00&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid black 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid black 1.0pt; border-top: none; mso-border-alt: solid black .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid black .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid black .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 231.05pt;" valign="top" width="308"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Workshop (One person presents short sermon or outline. We   all give feedback)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr style="mso-yfti-irow: 3; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes;"&gt;   &lt;td style="border-top: none; border: solid black 1.0pt; mso-border-alt: solid black .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid black .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 231.05pt;" valign="top" width="308"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;9:30&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="border-bottom: solid black 1.0pt; border-left: none; border-right: solid black 1.0pt; border-top: none; mso-border-alt: solid black .5pt; mso-border-left-alt: solid black .5pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid black .5pt; padding: 0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; width: 231.05pt;" valign="top" width="308"&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Finish&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-3763937446058730728?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/3763937446058730728/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=3763937446058730728' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3763937446058730728'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3763937446058730728'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/10/preaching-class-at-twynholm-baptist.html' title='Preaching class at Twynholm Baptist'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2Ux7wR8QfFg/TLbPOZVBwgI/AAAAAAAAA4g/O6wQGjq79qA/s72-c/PulpitRock%5B1%5D.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-4582927547723983464</id><published>2010-10-05T04:01:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-10-05T04:07:30.984-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The Washington Post, Blind Spots, and the Noetic Effects of Sin</title><content type='html'>Interesting article here on what future generations will see as the evils of this generation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.9marks.org/blog/washington-post-blind-spots-and-noetic-effects-sin?sms_ss=blogger&amp;amp;at_xt=4caae97cba9b85e4,0"&gt;The Washington Post, Blind Spots, and the Noetic Effects of Sin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-4582927547723983464?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/4582927547723983464/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=4582927547723983464' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/4582927547723983464'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/4582927547723983464'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/10/washington-post-blind-spots-and-noetic.html' title='The Washington Post, Blind Spots, and the Noetic Effects of Sin'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-9153971628698905143</id><published>2010-09-03T04:28:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-09-03T04:28:19.220-05:00</updated><title type='text'>New 9Marks ejournal tackles the difficult subject of Hell.</title><content type='html'>Challenging titles &lt;a href="http://www.9marks.org/ejournal/hell-remembering-awful-reality"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="MsoNormalTable" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;tbody&gt;&lt;tr style="mso-yfti-firstrow: yes; mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes;"&gt;&lt;td style="padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm; width: 311.25pt;" width="415"&gt;   &lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&lt;img alt="Dashed Line" border="0" id="_x0000_i1027" src="http://involve.9marks.org/images/content/pagebuilder/15371.jpg" width="412" /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 7.5pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #003d7d; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 15.0pt;"&gt;PASTORAL PERSPECTIVES ON HELL&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 7.5pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0097d6; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 11.5pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://involve.9marks.org/site/R?i=ph5TORiYVGAEeVnGxVkN1g.."&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0097d6; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;"&gt;Pastoral Fearmongering, Manipulation, and Hell&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;By Mark Dever&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Our culture sneers at fear, as if there really is nothing to fear but fear   itself. Yet Jesus told people to fear hell, and pastors today should do the   same.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0097d6; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 11.5pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://involve.9marks.org/site/R?i=5fjSxrCHGEpgQOh4e1nIFA.."&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0097d6; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;"&gt;There’s Something Worse than Death&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;By Kevin DeYoung&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The doctrine of hell is ballast for our ministries, which will help us sail   straight toward our most urgent task: proclaiming the gospel. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0097d6; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 11.5pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://involve.9marks.org/site/R?i=HLff1eKlWzzfX-dInNfjXQ.."&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0097d6; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;"&gt;What Then Shall We Preach on Hell?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;By Sinclair Ferguson&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hell is an awful and overwhelming reality. Yet where Scripture speaks,   pastors must not be silent. Here’s some practical help for this demanding   calling. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 15.0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #003d7d; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 15.0pt;"&gt;HELL IN BIBLICAL AND THEOLOGICAL PERSPECTIVE&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 7.5pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0097d6; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 11.5pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://involve.9marks.org/site/R?i=5_OdXhQPwQYyW2ZSr17aRQ.."&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0097d6; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;"&gt;Why Hell Is Integral to the Gospel&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;By Greg Gilbert&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some think that by minimizing or ignoring hell, they are making God more   glorious and more loving. Far from it! The horror of what we have been saved   from only intensifies the glory and wonder of our salvation. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0097d6; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 11.5pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://involve.9marks.org/site/R?i=ldEmNeuS7WNIgec-o60SCg.."&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0097d6; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;"&gt;Hellfire and Brimstone: Interpreting the New Testament’s   Descriptions of Hell&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;By Andrew David Naselli &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The New Testament graphically and horrifically describes hell, which raises a   thorny question: how should we interpret those dreadful images?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0097d6; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 11.5pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://involve.9marks.org/site/R?i=huTGmQVDECvP8QNULoC27A.."&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0097d6; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;"&gt;How Does Hell Glorify God?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;By James M. Hamilton,   Jr.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hell glorifies God by vindicating his holiness and faithfulness to his word,   demonstrating his infinite worth, and magnifying his mercy and love toward   the redeemed.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0097d6; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 11.5pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://involve.9marks.org/site/R?i=ze_AwqQhbQPsAXAW5xmIJw.."&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0097d6; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;"&gt;An Annotated Bibliography on Hell&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;By Gavin Ortlund&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This article contains brief reviews of seven key books on hell.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 33.75pt;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #003d7d; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 19.0pt;"&gt;Audio Interviews&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&lt;img alt="Dashed Line" border="0" height="7" id="_x0000_i1028" src="http://involve.9marks.org/images/content/pagebuilder/15371.jpg" width="403" /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0097d6; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 11.5pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://involve.9marks.org/site/R?i=iDLNk2Gc1tEtuvl1wU47Dw.."&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0097d6; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;"&gt;Training Pastors&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;with David Jackman&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;Can you “make” a preacher or is preaching simply a gift? Find   out in this interview with David Jackman, founder of the Cornhill Training   Course.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;;"&gt;Posted on September 1,   2010&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0097d6; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 11.5pt;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://involve.9marks.org/site/R?i=nzWpMNF4WfnKXnaRk23sZA.."&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0097d6; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; text-decoration: none; text-underline: none;"&gt;Women, Christianity, and Feminism&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;with Carolyn McCulley&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;Carolyn McCulley discusses feminism, ministering to singles,   Christian social action, and what it means to be a “crush catalyst.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;;"&gt;Posted on August 1, 2010&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-top: 33.75pt;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color: #003d7d; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 19.0pt;"&gt;New Translation&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-fareast-font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;&lt;img alt="Dashed Line" border="0" id="_x0000_i1029" src="http://involve.9marks.org/images/content/pagebuilder/15371.jpg" width="412" /&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="margin-bottom: .0001pt; margin: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #4e4e4e; font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;; font-size: 9.0pt;"&gt;The Korean translation of &lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,&amp;quot;sans-serif&amp;quot;;"&gt;In My Place Condemned He Stood&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;   by J.I. Packer and Mark Dever is now available here: &lt;a href="http://involve.9marks.org/site/R?i=qRdlTMeEtk23PPNxXG8BTA.." target="_blank"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #0097d6;"&gt;http://www.yes24.com/24/goods/3732515?scode=032&amp;amp;srank=1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;   &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm; width: 6.0pt;" width="8"&gt;   &lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;   &lt;td style="padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;"&gt;   &lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;  &lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/tbody&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-9153971628698905143?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/9153971628698905143/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=9153971628698905143' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/9153971628698905143'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/9153971628698905143'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/09/new-9marks-ejournal-tackles-difficult.html' title='New 9Marks ejournal tackles the difficult subject of Hell.'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-7102209889387615728</id><published>2010-07-30T10:46:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-07-30T10:46:41.985-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Two great audios on Baptism</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.9marks.org/blog/two-great-audios-baptism?sms_ss=blogger"&gt;Two great audios on Baptism&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-7102209889387615728?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='related' href='http://www.9marks.org/blog/two-great-audios-baptism?sms_ss=blogger' title='Two great audios on Baptism'/><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/7102209889387615728/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=7102209889387615728' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/7102209889387615728'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/7102209889387615728'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/07/two-great-audios-on-baptism.html' title='Two great audios on Baptism'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-5611218978328010261</id><published>2010-05-28T09:58:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-05-28T09:58:22.896-05:00</updated><title type='text'>First Reply from abortion provider: Debate, circulate.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://product-image.tradeindia.com/00239885/b/0/Human-Embryo-Foetal-Development-Charts.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://product-image.tradeindia.com/00239885/b/0/Human-Embryo-Foetal-Development-Charts.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;I've just received a very courteous and gracious reply from Tony Kerridge, Senior Communications Manager (Press and Public Affairs)Marie Stopes International to &lt;a href="http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/05/twenty-questions-for-aboriton-provider.html"&gt;my questions.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's the full text:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dear Mr Gilbert-Smith&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you for your email and your honesty.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As I'm sure you will appreciate, as the senior manager in charge of MSI’s media activity around this advertisement, the past two weeks have been particularly hectic and pressurised.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I want to respond to your 20 questions, and I want to do so properly. In order to do this, I will need a little time, as the answers in this debate are never ‘yes’ or ‘no’, or black and white. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am not in the office on Tuesday next after the bank holiday, so will pick up on these on my return.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope this is ok for your schedule. I wanted you to know that your questions will not be disregarded. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Regards. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's my reply...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"&gt;&lt;/meta&gt;&lt;meta content="Word.Document" name="ProgId"&gt;&lt;/meta&gt;&lt;meta content="Microsoft Word 12" name="Generator"&gt;&lt;/meta&gt;&lt;meta content="Microsoft Word 12" name="Originator"&gt;&lt;/meta&gt;&lt;link href="file:///C:%5CUsers%5CMIKE&amp;amp;H%7E1%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CTemp%5Cmsohtmlclip1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml" rel="File-List"&gt;&lt;/link&gt;&lt;link href="file:///C:%5CUsers%5CMIKE&amp;amp;H%7E1%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CTemp%5Cmsohtmlclip1%5C01%5Cclip_themedata.thmx" rel="themeData"&gt;&lt;/link&gt;&lt;link href="file:///C:%5CUsers%5CMIKE&amp;amp;H%7E1%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CTemp%5Cmsohtmlclip1%5C01%5Cclip_colorschememapping.xml" rel="colorSchemeMapping"&gt;&lt;/link&gt;&lt;style&gt;&lt;!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face	{font-family:"Cambria Math";	panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;	mso-font-charset:0;	mso-generic-font-family:roman;	mso-font-pitch:variable;	mso-font-signature:-1610611985 1107304683 0 0 159 0;}@font-face	{font-family:Calibri;	panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;	mso-font-charset:0;	mso-generic-font-family:swiss;	mso-font-pitch:variable;	mso-font-signature:-1610611985 1073750139 0 0 159 0;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal	{mso-style-unhide:no;	mso-style-qformat:yes;	mso-style-parent:"";	margin:0cm;	margin-bottom:.0001pt;	mso-pagination:widow-orphan;	font-size:12.0pt;	font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";	mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;	mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-latin;	mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";	color:#003572;}.MsoChpDefault	{mso-style-type:export-only;	mso-default-props:yes;	font-size:10.0pt;	mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;	mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;}@page Section1	{size:612.0pt 792.0pt;	margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;	mso-header-margin:36.0pt;	mso-footer-margin:36.0pt;	mso-paper-source:0;}div.Section1	{page:Section1;}--&gt;&lt;/style&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Dear Mr Kerridge,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Thank you very much for you kind and swift reply. I would much rather that you replied in a careful and nuanced fashion than quickly in a way that would cause more heat than light, so I am most grateful to you for taking time to answer. I am also thankful for your commitment not to disregard my questions.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;I shall delay writing any articles until I have received your reply. Though I will be saying a few words this Sunday, in representing the position of Marie Stopes I shall not say anything about you that is not on your website.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;I am away for next week on a family holiday, so will not receive the email until the following week. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Looking forward to your reply.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Very sincerely,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Mike Gilbart-Smith.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-5611218978328010261?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/5611218978328010261/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=5611218978328010261' title='6 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/5611218978328010261'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/5611218978328010261'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/05/first-reply-from-abortion-provider.html' title='First Reply from abortion provider: Debate, circulate.'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>6</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-2752367084067741343</id><published>2010-05-28T06:40:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-05-28T06:40:25.574-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Twenty questions for an aboriton provider who wants the taboo removed</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://dpccnet.com/sitefiles/1000/foetus0505_468x454.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="310" src="http://dpccnet.com/sitefiles/1000/foetus0505_468x454.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Marie Stopes International has this last week paid for&lt;a href="http://www.mariestopes.org.uk/Womens_services/Abortion/Are_you_Late$.aspx"&gt; the first TV advertisements f&lt;/a&gt;or abortion in the UK. The advertisement looks as if it is directly pregnant women to an independent helpline.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Marie Stopes have said that they hope this advertising to move the UK away from the taboos surrounding abortion. I hope at least that one effect of the adverts will be to have an honest debate about abortion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In order to help with this debate, I've written to Marie Stopes asking 20 questions that I didn't find answers to on their website.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's my email... 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I want to make sure that I would not be misrepresenting you in any way at all, though I should make clear to you that I do believe that abortion, and particularly providing abortion is immoral. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;However, I also want to be as courteous as I can with those with whom I disagree. I do not want to assume bad motivation for what you are doing. I understand the arguments of wanting to provide “safe” (obviously for the mother and not the baby) abortion when your fear is that if “safe” abortion were not provided, then back street abortion would inevitably be sought. The compassion you show to mothers I believe to be genuine, but misplaced.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;I do happen to agree with what I heard a Marie Stopes spokesperson say when she was hoping that there would be a removing of the taboo about speaking about abortion. I too hope that this taboo will be removed so that there can be an honest public debate about abortion.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;To contribute to this debate I hope to write some articles about abortion and about Marie Stopes in particular. There is much information on your website, but there were some questions that I didn’t find answers to, which I would be very grateful if you’d answer.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;I must also be clear that intend to distribute your answers.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;If you would rather meet in person to have a face to face conversation, I would also be very glad to do that.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;(I will use the term “mother” for the pregnant woman). Feel free to exchange the term for “Pregnant woman” if you would prefer that term, or to use another term of your choosing.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;1)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;When speaking to a mother will you always make it clear exactly what help is available to mothers who decide to keep the baby.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;2)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;What ongoing support do you offer to mothers who decide to keep the baby?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;3)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Do you always ask mothers if they are feeling pressurised into having abortions from others (e.g. boyfriends, husbands, parents, or the general expectations of society)?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 72pt;"&gt;(Several women whom I have spoken to who have had abortions have told me that they felt immense pressure that in a society where abortion is legal, there will be people telling them that having an abortion is “doing the right thing” and that it is irresponsible to have the baby.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;4)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Do you always suggest to mothers that it is never irresponsible to carry a baby and give birth once they are pregnant?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;5)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I’ve noticed in your FAQ’s that in more than sixty questions there is a lot of information about abortion, but there is no information on the development of the foetus. Do you think that the developmental stage of the foetus should be a factor that a mother should be informed about in order to have adequate information in making a decision as to whether to have an abortion?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;6)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;I understand that you must legally have a sonographic scan before an abortion is carried out. What details from that scan will you always communicate to the mother so that she might make a correctly informed decision?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 72pt; text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;a.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Will you always tell the mother the estimated age of the foetus?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 72pt; text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;b.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Will you always tell the mother what this corresponds to in terms of development?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 72pt; text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;c.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Could you outline the detail that you would go into as to the development of the foetus, with the following being a suggestive rather than an exhaustive list? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 108pt; text-indent: -108pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;i.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Will you tell the mother whether there is a heartbeat?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 108pt; text-indent: -108pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;ii.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Will you tell the mother whether the child has a brain?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 108pt; text-indent: -108pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;iii.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Will you tell the mother whether the child has a limbs and fingers and fingernails?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 108pt; text-indent: -108pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;iv.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Will you tell the mother whether the child has ears eyes and a nose?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 108pt; text-indent: -108pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;v.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Will you tell the mother which internal organs of the child are functional?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 108pt; text-indent: -108pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;vi.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Will you tell the mother the gender of the foetus if that is discernable?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 72pt; text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;d.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If you don’t volunteer that information do you always ask the mother if she would be interested in knowing the facts about the foetus’ development in order to help her make her decision?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;7)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Do you have a policy in training staff that they avoid the terms “baby” or&amp;nbsp; “child” in reference to the foetus?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;8)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Do you have a policy encouraging staff to use the term “pregnancy” instead of “foetus” or an equivalent term that would point to the fact that there is an organism other than the mother involved in the pregnancy?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;9)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Do you have a position as an organisation about when a human embryo/foetus becomes a human being?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;10)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Do you think that it would be morally acceptable to provide abortion even if you believed the foetus was already a human being?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;11)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If infanticide were legalised in some country, would you offer that as a service?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;12)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;What is the minimum time allowed for a proper counselling session to look through all possible options before going ahead with an abortion? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;13)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;How much did the NHs pay you last year to carry out abortions?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;14)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Do you think that there is any conflict of interest in Marie Stopes providing advice on whether a mother should have an abortion when Marie Stopes is paid for providing abortions?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;15)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In order to get your email address I phoned the 0845 300 80 90 number. Will my call automatically be counted in your statistics as being from a woman who called for advice but didn’t receive an abortion?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;16)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If a woman calls your line twenty times, will they be “counted” on your statistics of the number of women you’ve helped once or twenty times?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;17)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If after an abortion, the baby (I assume we can now use this term without controversy as she is outside the womb) shows some signs of life, do you have a policy stating that the medical personnel present should act to resuscitate? Do you have a policy saying that they may not act to resuscitate? &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;18)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Would you carry out an abortion if the stated reason given by the woman was that she wanted a boy, and this foetus is a girl?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;19)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;If asked would you carry out a selective abortion in order to remove the healthy girl from the womb and leave the healthy boy in the womb?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -18pt;"&gt;20)&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;In your five abortion clinics in China, what proportion of those who are aborted are girls?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Thank you so much for your willingness to answer these questions. In removing the taboo from conversation about abortion I trust that you are wanting honest, open&amp;nbsp; and informed debate. I hope that you taking the time to answer these questions will add to the honesty and help to remove the taboo from the abortion conversation.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Perhaps if you want to add to the honesty of the debate you’d also be happy to post the answers you give on your own website?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Many thanks,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Sincerely,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Mike Gilbart-Smith&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;  &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-2752367084067741343?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/2752367084067741343/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=2752367084067741343' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2752367084067741343'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2752367084067741343'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/05/twenty-questions-for-aboriton-provider.html' title='Twenty questions for an aboriton provider who wants the taboo removed'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-2328202437657835937</id><published>2010-05-07T09:15:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-05-07T09:15:03.276-05:00</updated><title type='text'>This is too funny...</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_D-hGjvHoqlE/RzjaPWtxIpI/AAAAAAAAAdM/qEVLQsIgLaM/s1600/ovey-wan.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="640" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_D-hGjvHoqlE/RzjaPWtxIpI/AAAAAAAAAdM/qEVLQsIgLaM/s640/ovey-wan.jpg" width="595" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;HT: &lt;a href="http://thebluefish.org/2007/11/ovey-wan.html"&gt;Dave Bish&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-2328202437657835937?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/2328202437657835937/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=2328202437657835937' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2328202437657835937'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2328202437657835937'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/05/this-is-too-funny.html' title='This is too funny...'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_D-hGjvHoqlE/RzjaPWtxIpI/AAAAAAAAAdM/qEVLQsIgLaM/s72-c/ovey-wan.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-3508734456469837611</id><published>2010-05-07T09:11:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-05-07T09:11:53.390-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Holy Spirit'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='College ministry'/><title type='text'>Unity among Charismatics / Non-Charismatics</title><content type='html'>Dave Bish has &lt;a href="http://thebluefish.org/2010/05/baptism-in-spirit-and-uccf-doctrinal.html"&gt;a good post&lt;/a&gt; on how those with a different view of the Spirit's work can work in gospel partnership on campus.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-3508734456469837611?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/3508734456469837611/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=3508734456469837611' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3508734456469837611'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3508734456469837611'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/05/unity-among-charismatics-non.html' title='Unity among Charismatics / Non-Charismatics'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-2092557582039549315</id><published>2010-04-30T11:22:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-04-30T11:22:45.760-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='culture tradition'/><title type='text'>Great quote from David Wells, "The Emperor's Lost Clothes"</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://ockenga.gordonconwell.edu/faculty/images/wells.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://ockenga.gordonconwell.edu/faculty/images/wells.jpg" width="133" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;In the past, Western Society was held together by three sinews: tradition, authority, and power. to change the image, these were the garments that covered Western society, and without them it had become indecent. Of these three, tradition might have been the first to do, although it went hand in hand with authority. Tradition is the process whereby one generation inducts its successor into its accumulated wisdom, lore, and values. The family once served as the chief conduit for this transmission, but the family is now collapsing, not merely because of divorce but as a result of affluence and the innovations of a technological age. In a video-saturated culture... film and television now provide the sorts of values that were once provided by the family, And public education, which used to be another conduit for such value, has also contracted out of this business, pleading that it has an obligation to be value-neutral. So it is that in the new civilization that is emerging children are lifted away from the older values like anchorless boats on a rising tide.&lt;br /&gt;David Wells, &lt;i&gt;No Place for Truth, 84.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-2092557582039549315?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/2092557582039549315/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=2092557582039549315' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2092557582039549315'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2092557582039549315'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/04/great-quote-from-david-wells-emperors.html' title='Great quote from David Wells, &quot;The Emperor&apos;s Lost Clothes&quot;'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-3272408523877351336</id><published>2010-02-12T12:18:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-12T12:18:34.702-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Psalms are songs with different moods.</title><content type='html'>As well as seeing different ways in which the Psalms point to Christ, it is helpful to see that the Psalms reflect the whole spectrum of human experience.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Belcher's analysis can be broken down into several different kinds of prayer/song. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is useful in reflecting upon Christ, as the Psalms were His hymnbook. Much is gained when we reflect upon how each Psalm would resonate upon the lips of Jesus. Through Christ it is also pastorally useful to us as we pour out our hearts to the Lord.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the usual list of different kinds of Psalms. 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 &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; text-indent: -17.85pt;"&gt;1.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Lament&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 72pt; text-indent: -17.85pt;"&gt;a.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Penetential&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 72pt; text-indent: -17.85pt;"&gt;b.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; 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&lt;/span&gt;Salvation history&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 72pt; text-indent: -17.85pt;"&gt;b.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Songs of Trust&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; text-indent: -17.85pt;"&gt;3.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Praise&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; text-indent: -17.85pt;"&gt;4.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; 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&lt;/span&gt;Covenant Psalms&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 72pt; text-indent: -17.85pt;"&gt;c.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Songs of Zion&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 72pt; text-indent: -17.85pt;"&gt;d.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Temple Liturgy&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; text-indent: -17.85pt;"&gt;5.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Wisdom Psalms&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; text-indent: -17.85pt;"&gt;6.&lt;span style="font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;; font-size-adjust: none; font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; line-height: normal;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Poems of the Law&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; text-indent: -17.85pt;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; text-indent: -17.85pt;"&gt;This is so useful to know, not just so that we can understand the Psalms, but so that we can know who God is, who Jesus is and how we are to relate to God through Jesus.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; 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 &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Where is my hope? (Psalms is a a book about the coming of Christ)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Who is my God? (Psalms is a book about the character of God)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal"&gt;Who am I? (Psalms is a book written to help us speak to God)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; text-indent: -17.85pt;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;  &lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-3272408523877351336?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/3272408523877351336/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=3272408523877351336' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3272408523877351336'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3272408523877351336'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/02/psalms-are-songs-with-different-moods.html' title='Psalms are songs with different moods.'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-2901132267192790363</id><published>2010-02-11T11:13:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-12T05:13:49.558-05:00</updated><title type='text'>There are 150 Messianic Psalms</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://img.flipkart.com/bk_imgs/740/9781845500740.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://img.flipkart.com/bk_imgs/740/9781845500740.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;A very helpful book in preparation for Preaching one sermon on the whole book of the Psalms this coming Sunday has been Richard Belcher Jr's &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Messiah-Psalms-Richard-Belcher-Jr/dp/1845500741"&gt;"The Messiah and the Psalms" &lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The point of his book it to help us to think how all the Psalms are fulfilled in Christ.&lt;br /&gt;He has 5 categories of how Psalms are about Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;1) Psalms of orientation&lt;br /&gt;"Psalms of orientation emphasize that life is oriented towards God and a person is experiencing seasons of well-being that evoke gratitude for the constancy of God's blessing" (44) &lt;br /&gt;2) Psalms of disorientation&lt;br /&gt;"Psalms of disorientation deal with seasons of hurt, alienation, suffering, and death. Life seems chaotic and in painful disarray." (67) &lt;br /&gt;3) Psalms of reorientation&lt;br /&gt;"[Psalms of New Orientation] express thanksgiving for the faithfulness and deliverance of God through a difficult time of crisis and despair so that joy and blessing are a part of life again." (99)&lt;br /&gt;4) Royal Psalms&lt;br /&gt;"The common thread in the royal psalms is kingship. Many royal psalms refer specifically to 'the king' (2,18,20,21,45,72,89), or sometimes to the king as the 'annointed' (2, 18, 20, 45, 89, 132)." (118)&lt;br /&gt;5) Directly Messianic Psalms&lt;br /&gt;"They speak more directly of the Messiah and his work and are used in the New Testament in this way." (157) &lt;br /&gt;Having laid out these different approaches to the Psalms, Belcher then expands the different ways in which Christ will then be preached from each of these different categories. Very helpful book!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-2901132267192790363?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/2901132267192790363/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=2901132267192790363' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2901132267192790363'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2901132267192790363'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/02/there-are-150-messianic-psalms.html' title='There are 150 Messianic Psalms'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-6216740321282904131</id><published>2010-02-10T20:41:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-02-10T20:41:55.615-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Psalms is a book</title><content type='html'>There are 66 books in the bible, unless you understand the Minor Prophets to be one book rather than twelve, in which case there are only 55, or if you understand Psalms to be five books rather than one, in which case there are 70.&lt;br /&gt;But, let's stick with 66. One of those books is Psalms. I'm planning to preach a sermon on Psalms this week, &lt;a href="http://www.twynholm.org/index.php/component/sermonspeaker/singlesermon/10038"&gt;having preached on Job &lt;/a&gt;last week. &lt;br /&gt;We tend to think of Psalms as a collection of songs that reflect the different experiences of David and others. It is certainly that; but it is not a random collection. Those songs have been crafted into a book with a coherent message.&lt;br /&gt;We tend to think of Psalms as being primarily about David; he is certainly in focus. But we must also recognise that Psalms is a post-exilic book. The focus is on David, because he is the model of the Messiah to come. Those who had returned from the exile and had not seen all the promises made to David come true. The return from exile has not marked the coming of the Messiah.&lt;br /&gt;Psalms holds out an enduring Messianic hope to a post-exilic people. There is yet a rest to come.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-6216740321282904131?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/6216740321282904131/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=6216740321282904131' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/6216740321282904131'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/6216740321282904131'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/02/psalms-is-book.html' title='Psalms is a book'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-4967723371587116732</id><published>2010-01-26T06:19:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2010-01-26T06:19:17.583-05:00</updated><title type='text'>how to wreck your church</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3111/2476505273_e72baa7e0d.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: right; float: right; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-left: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="243" src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3111/2476505273_e72baa7e0d.jpg" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Great post &lt;a href="http://tinyurl.com/yz95g79"&gt;here &lt;/a&gt;from Thabiti Anyabwile&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-4967723371587116732?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/4967723371587116732/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=4967723371587116732' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/4967723371587116732'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/4967723371587116732'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2010/01/how-to-wreck-your-church.html' title='how to wreck your church'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3111/2476505273_e72baa7e0d_t.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-5566292832269776433</id><published>2009-12-22T06:11:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-12-22T06:11:21.247-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Made up stories? Another great "a passion for life video"</title><content type='html'>&lt;object height="300" width="400"&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=7453081&amp;amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;amp;show_title=1&amp;amp;show_byline=1&amp;amp;show_portrait=0&amp;amp;color=&amp;amp;fullscreen=1" /&gt;&lt;embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=7453081&amp;amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;amp;show_title=1&amp;amp;show_byline=1&amp;amp;show_portrait=0&amp;amp;color=&amp;amp;fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="400" height="300"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/7453081"&gt;Isn't the bible a bunch of made up stories?&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/apassionforlife"&gt;A Passion for Life&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-5566292832269776433?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/5566292832269776433/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=5566292832269776433' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/5566292832269776433'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/5566292832269776433'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/12/made-up-stories-another-great-passion.html' title='Made up stories? Another great &quot;a passion for life video&quot;'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-4983673161773969158</id><published>2009-12-17T17:34:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-12-17T17:34:46.511-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Jesus is Israel, Herod is Pharoah, Israel is Egypt.</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.stagge.net/webquest/pharoah.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="200" src="http://www.stagge.net/webquest/pharoah.jpg" width="198" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/HerodtheGreat2.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/HerodtheGreat2.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;It is recognised by everybody that "Out of Egypt I called my Son" (Matthew 2:15, quoting Hosea 11:1) has been one of the harder fulfilment passages Matthew's gospel. It is hard for several reasons.&lt;br /&gt;1) Hosea 11:1 seems to be recalling a past event rather than anticipating a future event. This is noted by all the commentators. We misunderstand Matthew's use of "fulfilment" if we think that it means that it is a fulfilment of a predictive prophecy. Jesus is Israel. In being the seed in whom all the promises to Israel would be fulfilled, even the events of his life mirror the history of Israel. e.g. Blomberg, 67, "This is the first of several instances in Matthew in which Jesus recapitulates the role of Israel as a whole".&lt;br /&gt;National Israel anticipated the life of the true vine, in whom the hopes and fear of all the years are met.&lt;br /&gt;2) Matthew states that hosea 11:1 is fulfilled straight after he has recounted the journey of Jesus, joseph and Mary &lt;i&gt;into&lt;/i&gt; Egypt, not &lt;i&gt;out of &lt;/i&gt;it.&lt;br /&gt;The majority of commentators (eg. Caron, Blomberg, Calvin, Nolland) suggest that it is put here rather than when he actually comes out of Egypt for structural reasons. Three scenes in 2:13-23 each fulfil one Old Testament allusion.&lt;br /&gt;However, there is another possible (and I think probable) explanation. I first heard of it in a conversation with Michael Lawrence. I'd not arrived at Capitol Hill Baptist Church by the time he was at that point in his bible studies through Matthew's gospel. However, he explained to me how it makes perfect sense to see "Out of Egypt have I called my Son" to refer to Jesus' journey from Israel to Egpyt rather than the return journey.&lt;br /&gt;Herod acts like Pharoah, even killing baby boys. Infanticide was seen as the most horrific of social crimes in the Old Testament. It is from such an Egypt that the Lord brought his son Israel in the Exodus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Once you see this, there are all kinds of other parallels between the Exodus story and the flight &lt;i&gt;to&lt;/i&gt; Egpyt that one sees. They flee at night (Exodus 12:8,12,29,30,31, 42) at the direct command of the Lord (Exodus 12:31). Both passages have the death of God's enemies front and centre: the one who seeks the death of God's people will die. In Exodus, there is no house without a dead son. In Matthew, the death of Herod himself is hightlight (2:15, 19, 20).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This fits also with the whole theme of Matthew's gospel. Jesus is the true Israel, and Israel is no longer the people of God, unless they recognise Jesus as their Messiah. See this theme recur &lt;a href="http://www.leithart.com/archives/002590.php"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then, if we have Jesus as our Messiah, even those who will not be comforted due to the exile caused by their rebellion, can in fact have the comforts of the New Covenant, hence the second quotation from Jeremiah 31.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;however, these comforts come from the One who is despised and rejected. We deserve the exile; Jesus experiences exile his whole life, as he is called a Nazarene: the one who came unto his own, but his own received him not. Yet, to all who did receive him he, who believed in his name he gave the right to become children of God. (cf. John 1:11-12)&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-4983673161773969158?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/4983673161773969158/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=4983673161773969158' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/4983673161773969158'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/4983673161773969158'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/12/jesus-is-israel-herod-is-pharoah-israel.html' title='Jesus is Israel, Herod is Pharoah, Israel is Egypt.'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-5130165946600191259</id><published>2009-12-02T05:49:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2009-12-04T05:54:51.447-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='translation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preaching'/><title type='text'>And I am glad and happy and comfortable to be reading and preaching from the NIV</title><content type='html'>&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://images.hoddersystems.com/getimage.asp?isbn=9780340979600&amp;amp;issue=1&amp;amp;size=bigweb" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://images.hoddersystems.com/getimage.asp?isbn=9780340979600&amp;amp;issue=1&amp;amp;size=bigweb" width="211" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;a href="http://images.gnpcb.org/products/big/9781581343878.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="clear: left; float: left; margin-bottom: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;img border="0" height="320" src="http://images.gnpcb.org/products/big/9781581343878.jpg" width="202" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;As a church Twynholm BC moved from the NIV to the ESV a few years ago. We have recently made a decision to move back. I'm delighted with the move, particularly this week.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;Having &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.twynholm.org/index.php/component/sermonspeaker/sermonarchive?year=2009&amp;amp;month=11"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;preached on Matthew 1:1-17 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;on Sunday, I'm certainly glad that the NIV made the decision that not every "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: 'Charis SIL', charis, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;δε&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;" needs to be translated by the word "and": a comma, or a full stop and capital letter are perfectly adequate and accurate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;The result is, that in 17 verses the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew%201:1-17&amp;amp;version=NIV"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;NIV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt; has 8 "and"s. The &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew%201:1-17&amp;amp;version=ESV"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;ESV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt; has 42. Is that really necessary? I'm glad I didn't have to read the ESV publically last Sunday.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;Here's an email I sent to a friend who asked me why we changed back.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;I think we all recognise many of the strengths of the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="-webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;ESV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;. It is useful for as a bible study aid (rather like the use of an interlinear) for those who don't have biblical languages. It preserves connectives (even at the expense of good English), tries to use the same English word to translate the same oringinal language word where appropriate, etc. Has made some good choices in some places where the NIV has not done so well, (Eg propitiation over sacrifice of atonement etc.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, that having been admitted, here are 9 problems with the &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="-webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;ESV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt; divided into 3 categories.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please don't read the stuff below if you are considering buying the &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="-webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;ESV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;'s off us. Remember it's the extremely sound version, and I'll give you a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;good price&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 100%;"&gt;&lt;span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;A. Philosophy of translation. the "Exclusion of Subtlety Version"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) it seems to be based on the assumption that a 'word-for-word' translation is more 'accurate' than a 'sense-for-sense' translation. This seems an entirely wrongheaded assumption to me. Surely faithfulness in translation &lt;/span&gt; &lt;i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;is&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt; that which best conveys the sense of of the original in the target language.&lt;br /&gt;2) the word-for-word thing is shown up by how many of its proponents seem to write as if either they are ignorant of basic linguistics, or they assume their readers are ignorant, and try to pull the wool over their eyes. E.g. to suggest that "adelphos" MEANS "brother" and not "brother and sister" begs the question as to whether the semantic range of two words in different languages, times and cultures are ever identical.&lt;br /&gt;3) It seems interesting that those who are themselves bilingual (such as Carson and Silva) and therefore always trying to translate from one lanuage they know well to another seem to favour dynamic equivalence.&lt;br /&gt;4) the fact that it is based so heavily upon the RSV frustrated even some of the translators. So, I remember [one of the translators of the ESV] saying that where he'd say it was a close call, but on balance he'd prefer to depart from the RSV, "on balance" wasn't enough to go for what he would feel was a more accurate translation.&lt;br /&gt;5) The decisions made on gender inclusivity seem not to understand the ways in which the English language has moved on.&lt;br /&gt;Lots more on this area in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;Carson's "&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/tgc-documents/carson/2003_limits_of_functional_equivalence.pdf"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;The limits of functional equivalence&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;" in &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Challenge-Bible-Translation-Communicating-World/dp/0310246857/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1259751974&amp;amp;sr=8-1"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;"the challenge of Bible Translation"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;(Incidentally, if you have my copy of that book, please let me know. I can't remember who I leant it to!)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;/b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;B. Readability. the "Extremely Stilted Version"&lt;br /&gt;1) Surely there would be a way even to have a more formally equivalent translation that wasn't quite so wooden, and incomprehensible.&lt;br /&gt;What is gained in the literalism of Numbers 27:1 " &lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;Then drew near the daughters of&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup href="&amp;quot;#cen-ESV-4556A&amp;quot;" title="&amp;quot;See" value=""&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;A)"&amp;gt;(&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=numbers%2027&amp;amp;version=ESV#cen-ESV-4556A" style="color: #2a5db0;" target="_blank" title="See cross-reference A"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;A&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt; Zelophehad the son of Hepher" as opposed to "the daughters of Zelophehad approached"? and this isn't a one off example, it's a formalism that runs throughout.&lt;br /&gt;2) Preservation of connectives may be quite useful at times in the development of an argument in Paul (though even &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;then the pudding may become over-egged. But when every kai and de, and vav of a vav consecutive are translated "and" it becomes utterly ridiculous. There are more "ands" in Mark's gospel than verses! 1241 "ands" in the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="-webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;ESV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt; compared with 693 in the NIV. For a fun exercise, turn to a random chapter of Mark's gospel and try and work out what would have been lost to the accuracy of sense if some of the "kai"s had been translated not with "and" but with "fullstop, capital letter." What would have been gained by the readability?&lt;br /&gt;3) If readability isn't THE most important thing in our private devotions, (we can take time to read and re-read a sentence until we've understood the English) it is of vital importance in public reading. (If you didn't follow, it was too late). For us this has become the overwhelming factor as to why we are planning to abandon the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="-webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;ESV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;, particularly as about many of the congregation don't have English as a first language, and another large proportion left school at 16. I have two degrees, but even I don't read too well! Even if it was perfectly accurate, it wouldn't be much good if it is utterly incomprehensible - we might just as well read out the Greek and the Hebrew!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;C. Marketing. The "exclusively sound version"?&lt;br /&gt;1) With all the arguments and subtleties involved in bible translation, the way in which the &lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="-webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;ESV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt; is being put forward by some as the only sound version for the discerning bible reader who really trusts that every word of the original is inspired, is frankly a little distasteful.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And verily, verily I say unto you, that, I have sufficient upon this subject said.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span class="Apple-style-span" style="background-color: white;"&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;Mike&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-5130165946600191259?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/5130165946600191259/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=5130165946600191259' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/5130165946600191259'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/5130165946600191259'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/12/and-i-am-glad-and-happy-and-comfortable.html' title='And I am glad and happy and comfortable to be reading and preaching from the NIV'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-1829040730622522557</id><published>2009-12-01T10:22:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2009-12-02T05:54:00.523-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='genesis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='creation'/><title type='text'>A pictorial representation of a Hebrew Cosmology</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2Ux7wR8QfFg/SxU1rpVrWZI/AAAAAAAAA3E/1zKw32SO4_s/s1600/hebrew+cosmology.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 283px; height: 400px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2Ux7wR8QfFg/SxU1rpVrWZI/AAAAAAAAA3E/1zKw32SO4_s/s400/hebrew+cosmology.jpg" border="0" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5410289551302941074" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In &lt;a href="http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/11/confusing-converstions-9-clicher-texts.html"&gt;my previous post&lt;/a&gt; I made the point that assuming that Genesis 1 is attempting to be "Scientifically accurate" just doesn't work. This is not just because of the chronology of Genesis 1, but, even more obviously, because of its topology. Today I came across &lt;a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/michaelpaukner/4077736695/sizes/o/"&gt;this picture&lt;/a&gt; that makes the point well.&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;HT: &lt;a href="http://markmeynell.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/q-marks-the-spot-treasure-map-15-december-2009/"&gt;Mark Meynell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-1829040730622522557?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/1829040730622522557/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=1829040730622522557' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/1829040730622522557'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/1829040730622522557'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/12/pictorial-representation-of-hebrews.html' title='A pictorial representation of a Hebrew Cosmology'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2Ux7wR8QfFg/SxU1rpVrWZI/AAAAAAAAA3E/1zKw32SO4_s/s72-c/hebrew+cosmology.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-3969108048729654560</id><published>2009-11-20T07:35:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-26T15:08:26.604-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='genesis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='creation'/><title type='text'>Confusing Converstions 9: Clicher Texts</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://commonsenseatheism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/peanuts-theology.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="float:left; margin:0 10px 10px 0;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;width: 384px; height: 388px;" src="http://commonsenseatheism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/peanuts-theology.jpg" border="0" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;We should certainly take every verse of the bible seriously. However, we should also ensure that we do not "ex&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;pound one place of Scripture, that it be repugnant to another." (article XX, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.britainexpress.com/History/tudor/39articles-text.htm"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;39 articles&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;So, when people claim to have "the clincher" verse on either side of the debate, we should certainly listen, but we should certainly also weigh with other Scriptures.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;A clincher verse for some creationists is Romans 8:20-21.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;"&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;The argument is that this shows that all decay and death (whether animal, plant??, radioactive??) is all a result of the fall. Even the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;second law of thermodynamics&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;, it's argued, is a result of the fall. Perhaps this is why it is difficult to read the "science". Before the fall there would have been an entirely different science in place. (As far as I see, perhaps even a different mathematics, as the second law of thermodynamics is essentially the result of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_mechanics"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;statistical mechanics&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;The clincher for the non-&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;literalist&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; might be Genesis 1:6-8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-6" style="line-height: normal; font-weight: bold; vertical-align: text-top; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;6&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water." &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-7" style="line-height: normal; font-weight: bold; vertical-align: text-top; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;7&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-8" style="line-height: normal; font-weight: bold; vertical-align: text-top; "&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;8&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; God called the expanse "sky." And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;I would argue that there are not merely temporal problems in understanding the Genesis to be a literal scientifically accurate account. There are also spatial problems. Where is this place beyond the sky where these waters may have been stored (albeit possibly temporarily). It cannot be the upper atmosphere on a &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;literalist&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; reading, because the known universe is within the expanse/firmament, not beyond it (the sun, moon and stars are set within the expanse, not above it in 1:14-17). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;I cannot see any way in which this makes sense within a scientifically accurate topography of the cosmos. It makes perfect sense if Moses borrowed the widely accepted topography of the universe in the Ancient Near East without challenging it, because that wasn't his point.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;But I want to be cautious in suggesting that it is an absolute clincher. If other factors were to convince me of the necessity of the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;literalist&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt; view I would, by faith, have to trust that there was some way in which this did make sense within the early topography of the universe - a universe that was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span class="Apple-style-span"  style="font-size:medium;"&gt;certainly a very different place to the one we know now, if there was not even any second law of thermodynamics.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-3969108048729654560?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/3969108048729654560/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=3969108048729654560' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3969108048729654560'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3969108048729654560'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/11/confusing-converstions-9-clicher-texts.html' title='Confusing Converstions 9: Clicher Texts'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-935939312583751842</id><published>2009-11-19T07:23:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2009-12-02T05:54:36.792-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='science'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preaching'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='creation'/><title type='text'>Another Great Passion for life video. Science this time</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="400" height="300"&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=7414690&amp;amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;amp;show_title=1&amp;amp;show_byline=1&amp;amp;show_portrait=0&amp;amp;color=&amp;amp;fullscreen=1"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=7414690&amp;amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;amp;show_title=1&amp;amp;show_byline=1&amp;amp;show_portrait=0&amp;amp;color=&amp;amp;fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="400" height="300"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/7414690"&gt;Hasn't Science disproved God?&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/apassionforlife"&gt;A Passion for Life&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-935939312583751842?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/935939312583751842/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=935939312583751842' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/935939312583751842'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/935939312583751842'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/11/another-great-passion-for-life-video.html' title='Another Great Passion for life video. Science this time'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-292347398093488616</id><published>2009-11-18T06:14:00.005-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-18T06:21:36.539-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Evangelism'/><title type='text'>An atheist who thinks Christians are hateful if they DON'T seek to convert him.</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/owZc3Xq8obk&amp;amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/owZc3Xq8obk&amp;amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“I’ve always said that I don’t respect people who don’t proselytize. I don’t respect that at all. If you believe that there’s a heaven and a hell, and people could be going to hell or not getting eternal life, and you think that it’s not really worth telling them this because it would make it socially awkward—and atheists who think people shouldn’t proselytize and who say just leave me along and keep your religion to yourself—how much do you have to hate somebody to &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; proselytize? How much do you have to hate somebody to believe everlasting life is possible and not tell them that?&lt;div class="entry"&gt; &lt;p&gt;“I mean, if I believed, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that a truck was coming at you, and you didn’t believe that truck was bearing down on you, there is a certain point where I tackle you. And this is &lt;em&gt;more&lt;/em&gt; important than that.”&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;/div&gt;                  HT:&lt;a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2009/11/17/how-much-do-you-have-to-hate-somebody-to-not-proselytize/"&gt; Justin Taylor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://sharethis.com/"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-292347398093488616?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/292347398093488616/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=292347398093488616' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/292347398093488616'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/292347398093488616'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/11/atheist-who-thinks-christians-are.html' title='An atheist who thinks Christians are hateful if they DON&apos;T seek to convert him.'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-7392146367841360735</id><published>2009-11-12T05:37:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-19T07:49:25.080-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='creation'/><title type='text'>Confusing Conversations 8: The apologetic imperative.</title><content type='html'>Apologetics is an important discipline. We should consider carefully how to answer questions that the non-believer might have concerning biblical truths that we hold. Yet we should never hold truths just so that our apologetic response would be easier.&lt;br /&gt;I've come across people from both sides of the creationist/theistic evolution debate who use as an argument for holding their position that it is an apologetic imperative.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The creationist might say, "It is an apologetic imperative that we hold to a six day creation. If we take a non-literal reading of Genesis Chapter One, the very first chapter of the bible, it will be impossibly complicated to then argue why we insist on taking a literal reading of the virgin birth, the sacrificial death and the bodily resurrection of the Lord Jesus. I just don't think that I'd be able to explain that to my next door neighbour."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The theistic evolutionist might say, "It is an apologetic imperative that we hold to an old earth, and some form of macro-evolution. There is such clear scientific evidence for them that if we don't follow that evidence where they lead, we will show ourselves to be obscurantists; I don't think I could even get a sounding for the gospel if I were to believe things like that."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, once one has decided whether or not one is going to take a literalistic view of Genesis 1, one could use these arguments to show why you think that view makes an important difference to your apologetics. But you should never start with the apologetic ease of a position and then decide whether you will hold it or not. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We should first be convinced by the text of Scripture one way or another, and then begin to think through the apologetic implications. Truth first, and then its defence.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-7392146367841360735?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/7392146367841360735/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=7392146367841360735' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/7392146367841360735'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/7392146367841360735'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/11/confusing-conversations-8-apologetic.html' title='Confusing Conversations 8: The apologetic imperative.'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-904651050298760356</id><published>2009-11-06T05:18:00.008-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-19T07:49:25.081-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='interpretation'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='genesis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='creation'/><title type='text'>Confusing Conversations 7: Symbolism</title><content type='html'>This week I'm back in the pulpit, returning to the series on Genesis 1-3&lt;br /&gt;One of the things that I've noticed as I've preached through the series is the rich depth of symbolism throughout the chapters.&lt;br /&gt;I've noted in a previous post the symbolic imagery of the temple, certainly in Genesis 2-3, and possibly in Genesis 1. God is building for himself a tabernacle: this tabernacle is to be the source of all life within the cosmos, and as such functions as a miniature cosmos.&lt;br /&gt;But the symbolism doesn't stop there. &lt;br /&gt;This week, I'm preaching on Genesis 3:8-13. There are some points that are so deeply inlaid with symbolism, that I feel we end up missing something if we move from the rich language of the narrative and try to reduce it to an historical account: 'what it would have looked like if we had been there.' &lt;br /&gt;Even translation of some of the phrases in 3:8-13 leaves you having to make hard choices that limit the symbolic richness of the passage. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;e.g. 3:8. Here are some decisions that must be made in translation "And they heard the voice/sound of the Lord God['s] walking in the garden in the spirit/wind/cool/evening/early morning of the/that day. And the man and his wife hid themselves amoungst/between the tree(s) (singular but is plural signified, or just one tree? If just one, which tree was it? Was it the one they ate from or the one that would have given them life, or just one of the other trees that they were free to eat from?)of the garden."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If one says that this must be a straight historical narrative, the best way to understand the "voice" is that it is the sound of the Lord's walking: as it were, his footsteps among the fallen leaves. Hamilton translates it "rustling sound". But if one allows this to be a symbolically-laden retelling of a real event: one where the symbolism is so rich that one is not supposed to reconstruct the actual historical line of the event, where we are not supposed so much to picture it in every detail, but explore the theological significance of it all (rather like, as we said in a previous post a Judges 5 rather than Judges 4 type account) then we have no problem in understanding this as the very voice (word?) of God walking in the garden. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another factor that has led me more towards such a reading are the many parallels between the opening chapters of Genesis and the book of Revelation. Revelation is without doubt the book of the New Testament with the richest and most frequent use of the Old Testament. (See Greg Beale's excellent introduction in the Revelation entry in the "Commentary on the New Testament use of the Old Testament"). Much of the significance of the theology of Revelation is that the visions that I believe John truly saw, are written in language that picks up huge amounts of symbolism from the Old Testament. The symbolism then becomes the point. We are not somehow supposed to try to reconstruct the actual details of the visions, as if we need to know the exact visual experience of John. The symbolic narration of the visions is God's intention for us in the visions. But I'm seeing more and more similarities between the realities portrayed in Revelation and realities portrayed in the early chapters of Genesis. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There seem to be two approaches to the symbolism of Genesis 1-3. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First approach says, that unless the account is also historically accurate in every detail, the symbolism loses its significance. Historical truth is the truth that is being portrayed. If we cannot 'trust' the account in its historical details, how can we 'trust' the symbolism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The second approach says, that for the purpose of symbolism that gives a trustworthy theological account of the real historical events, a trustworthy author might employ language to describe an event that is not strictly historically accurate. But that the way in which the symbolism is so clearly being employed means there is no deception; we are to trust the author because the symbolism takes us deeper into the theological realities of the situation than a straight historical account would be able to do. Judges 5 is in many ways theologically richer than Judges 4, yet necessarily less "realistic".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, whatever your take on the literalism of Genesis 1-3, I urge you not to miss its symbolism, where much of the richness of the theology of the text will be found.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-904651050298760356?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/904651050298760356/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=904651050298760356' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/904651050298760356'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/904651050298760356'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/11/does-literalistic-reading-lose-symbolic.html' title='Confusing Conversations 7: Symbolism'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-7328723159683516251</id><published>2009-11-03T12:15:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-11-04T05:03:35.909-05:00</updated><title type='text'>FIEL Conference 2</title><content type='html'>The rest of the time at the FIEL conference was a great privilege.&lt;br /&gt;1) I got to hang out with some great brothers and sisters: an older brother in ministry, Stuart Olyott; a fellow elder, John Folmar (who so graciously put up with my snoring - one night on the plane and 3 nights in a hotel room); &lt;a href="http://www.editorafiel.org/aboutus.php"&gt;the leadership of FIEL&lt;/a&gt;, including the director, Rick Denham: hugely gifted in terms of vision and business acumen, and Tiago Santos: a brother with great theological insight and pastoral vision (you could tell he's got a great pastoral heart even by how he translated - he wasn't just translating it, he was preaching it!)&lt;div&gt;2) What a privilege to have the opportunity to encourage, and Lord willing, influence a group of pastors in a part of the world that is starving for the gospel. I was constantly encouraged by conversations with people who had made great sacrifices, and had a joyful trust in the Lord, even though the fruit seemed to be slow to become visible.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;3) I was fed in my own soul through listening to the teaching of John Folmar, Sturat Olyott, and Augustus Nicodemus (as much as I could understand his Portuguese.)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Below are the remainder of the 9marks talks given by John and me.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" width="480" height="386" id="utv535982" name="utv_n_742560"&gt;&lt;param name="flashvars" value="loc=%2F&amp;amp;autoplay=false&amp;amp;vid=2434967"&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;param name="src" value="http://www.ustream.tv/flash/video/2434967"&gt;&lt;embed flashvars="loc=%2F&amp;amp;autoplay=false&amp;amp;vid=2434967" 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value="http://www.ustream.tv/flash/video/2442678"&gt;&lt;embed flashvars="loc=%2F&amp;amp;autoplay=false&amp;amp;vid=2442678" width="480" height="386" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" id="utv885396" name="utv_n_908477" src="http://www.ustream.tv/flash/video/2442678" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the second half of the talk that Stuart gave on not preaching boring sermons, followed by his final address:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" width="480" height="386" id="utv176405" name="utv_n_656326"&gt;&lt;param name="flashvars" value="loc=%2F&amp;amp;autoplay=false&amp;amp;vid=2439660"&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;param name="src" value="http://www.ustream.tv/flash/video/2439660"&gt;&lt;embed 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href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/11/fiel-conference-2.html' title='FIEL Conference 2'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-4072932636286541398</id><published>2009-10-27T19:24:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2009-10-27T19:55:32.928-05:00</updated><title type='text'>FIEL conference</title><content type='html'>Because I love the Lord's church, it is always a tremendous privilege to speak to other pastors. Each one represents a whole church. Anything that a pastor learns, or is encouraged by, will be multiplied in the congregation to whom the Lord has given him as a pastor.&lt;div&gt;It's been my first time speaking through an interpreter. It's hard in some ways; but it also gives you time to think!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Here's the 9Marks talks that John Folmar and I have given so far.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" width="480" height="386" id="utv629917" name="utv_n_271055"&gt;&lt;param name="flashvars" value="loc=%2F&amp;amp;autoplay=false&amp;amp;vid=2433942" /&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /&gt;&lt;param name="src" value="http://www.ustream.tv/flash/video/2433942" /&gt;&lt;embed flashvars="loc=%2F&amp;amp;autoplay=false&amp;amp;vid=2433942" width="480" height="386" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" id="utv629917" name="utv_n_271055" src="http://www.ustream.tv/flash/video/2433942" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" 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value="http://www.ustream.tv/flash/video/2434967" /&gt;&lt;embed flashvars="loc=%2F&amp;amp;autoplay=false&amp;amp;vid=2434967" width="480" height="386" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" id="utv611162" name="utv_n_156991" src="http://www.ustream.tv/flash/video/2434967" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And here's a couple of great talks by Stuart Ollyott, whom it has been a real pleasure to meet this week.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" width="480" height="386" id="utv3582" name="utv_n_123338"&gt;&lt;param name="flashvars" value="loc=%2F&amp;amp;autoplay=false&amp;amp;vid=2430643" /&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /&gt;&lt;param name="src" value="http://www.ustream.tv/flash/video/2430643" /&gt;&lt;embed flashvars="loc=%2F&amp;amp;autoplay=false&amp;amp;vid=2430643" width="480" height="386" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" id="utv3582" name="utv_n_123338" src="http://www.ustream.tv/flash/video/2430643" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" width="480" height="386" id="utv216712" name="utv_n_711470"&gt;&lt;param name="flashvars" value="loc=%2F&amp;amp;autoplay=false&amp;amp;vid=2435586" /&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /&gt;&lt;param name="src" value="http://www.ustream.tv/flash/video/2435586" /&gt;&lt;embed flashvars="loc=%2F&amp;amp;autoplay=false&amp;amp;vid=2435586" width="480" height="386" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" id="utv216712" name="utv_n_711470" src="http://www.ustream.tv/flash/video/2435586" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" /&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-4072932636286541398?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/4072932636286541398/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=4072932636286541398' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/4072932636286541398'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/4072932636286541398'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/10/fiel-conference.html' title='FIEL conference'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-3909578227411928152</id><published>2009-10-24T16:57:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-10-24T17:00:40.950-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Honouring a faithful pastor</title><content type='html'>It's been a tremendous privilege to be back in Washington DC at Capitol Hill Baptist Church this weekend for a celebration of 15 years at Capitol Hill Baptist Church for Mark and Connie Dever.&lt;br /&gt;A friend posted a video of the rather surprised Mark as he walked into a room that was waiting for him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" 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href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3909578227411928152'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3909578227411928152'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/10/honouring-faithful-pastor.html' title='Honouring a faithful pastor'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-3156443233002853610</id><published>2009-10-19T08:17:00.008-05:00</published><updated>2009-12-02T05:54:36.793-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preaching'/><title type='text'>The Millenium, and two friends: a Rookie Preacher and a Seminary Professor</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2Ux7wR8QfFg/StxtGMYii1I/AAAAAAAAA20/KGhdz1P389M/s1600-h/marcos+and+faye.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 246px; height: 184px;" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2Ux7wR8QfFg/StxtGMYii1I/AAAAAAAAA20/KGhdz1P389M/s400/marcos+and+faye.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5394306406853806930" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I've been preaching through Genesis 1-3 in the morning services here at Twynholm. Yesterday we arrived at Genesis 3:1-7. In the evening service we take a passage related to the morning passage. Marcos Peters, probably still inside his first 10 sermons, preached an excellent message on Revelation 20:3 (the one who deceived Eve is bound so that he might not deceive the nations).&lt;br /&gt;Taking us through from Eden to Babel to the coming of the kingdom in Christ Marcos argued convincingly for an amillennial reading (though he did well not to use that term!) This was then applied in a way that was encouraging for us, just as it would have been encouraging for the initial readers. Things may look tough, but Christ has won his victory through the cross and resurrection; he is enthroned in heaven; Satan is bound; we can have confidence to preach the gospel, knowing that today Christ is in the business of bringing people from every nation to enlightenment and salvation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.sbts.edu/_img/_content/_faculty/james-hamilton.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 220px; height: 330px;" src="http://www.sbts.edu/_img/_content/_faculty/james-hamilton.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;On the other side of the argument, my friend and dear brother Jim Hamilton has had a series of posts arguing for a premillennial reading. You can find them &lt;a href="http://jimhamilton.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/audio-and-video-from-an-evening-of-eschatology/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://jimhamilton.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/response-to-jt-on-what-premillennialists-must-believe/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://jimhamilton.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/a-brief-response-to-sams-thrones-argument/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://jimhamilton.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/he-doesnt-do-this-in-the-millenium/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://jimhamilton.wordpress.com/2009/10/09/did-you-see-what-hes-doing-in-revelation-1314/"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. They are very coherent, and deserve serious thought.&lt;br /&gt;One of the key arguments he uses is a comparison of Revelation 20:3 where Satan is bound so that he cannot deceive the nations with Revelation 13:14 where he deceives the inhabitants of the earth. Revelation 13 is clearly the church age, so Revelation 20 can't be, he argues.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, when it comes to the rookie preacher and the Professor of Biblical Theology, this time I'm with the Rookie!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here's my reply to his last post:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks Jim for these posts.&lt;br /&gt;(Thanks also for your very &lt;a href="http://news.sbts.edu/2009/08/24/what-i-learned-in-my-first-pastorate/"&gt;helpful reflections&lt;/a&gt; on your first pastorate. This was very encouraging to me 18 months into life at Twynholm. Praying the Lord would make me more prayerful.)&lt;br /&gt;As a fairly convinced amillennialist I’m interested in your comparison between the two texts, seeing deception in Revelation 12-13 and no deception in 20.&lt;br /&gt;My own reading is that the deception of the nations is exactly what comes to an end with the finished work of Christ (not without exception, but without the Jew/Gentile distinction that existed before the coming of Christ).&lt;br /&gt;Since Babel the nations have been deceived, and only through coming through Israel is there enlightenment in the Old Testament (focused on the temple in Jerusalem… I think someone’s written a good book about that!).&lt;br /&gt;With the coming of Christ (and the Spirit) Babel is reversed (Acts 2) worship in delocalised (John 4) and repentance is granted to the Gentiles (Acts 10-11)&lt;br /&gt;Jesus himself says that unless the strong man is bound, there can be no freedom.(Matt 12)&lt;br /&gt;So I think that you are being a little harsh on the amillennialist. We don’t believe that Satan deceives nobody in the church age, but that the nations are not deceived as a whole. I’d suggest that we are paying very careful attention to the text, and particularly the force of the word “Nations”.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Jim then replied:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mike, Thanks for your kind note and encouraging words. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;On Rev 20, it looks to me like the kind of thing that Satan was doing in Rev 12-13 is stopped altogether. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Great to hear from you! &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Jim&lt;/p&gt;     &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;I replied to Jim:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks Jim,&lt;br /&gt;Yes, you argue very well the case that all deception has stopped; if people are wanting to think the issue through and hear the premil position argued for well, these posts would be a great place to start. Revelation 20:3 is of course your best verse if you are going to be premil. I would argue though that it’s your best verse in the same way that 1 John 2:2 is the best verse for a general atonement. Looks like a slam dunk case on a first reading (or, as a Brit I ought to say a plumb LBW decision).&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;I’m just wondering though that, given the huge emphasis on the breaking down of the Jew/Gentile distinction in the New Testament, that you could not at least understand why an amil reader would see it entirely consistent to describe such a cataclysmic change in terms as radical as the chaining of Satan so that he would no longer deceive the nations?&lt;br /&gt;Grace and peace,&lt;br /&gt;Your brother,&lt;br /&gt;Mike&lt;/p&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Jim replied:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mike, I understand what you’re saying, but I think it’s wrong! &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The reason is that Revelation 13:7 says this of Satan’s beast: “and authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation.” &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;So I think that when you read Rev 13, you see that Satan’s beast has Satan’s own authority (cf. 13:2) over the nations. Then in Rev 20 all that authority is stripped away from him. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Making that say the same thing is more than I’m interested in trying to do, &lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Jim&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-3156443233002853610?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/3156443233002853610/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=3156443233002853610' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3156443233002853610'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3156443233002853610'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/10/millenium-and-two-friends-rookie.html' title='The Millenium, and two friends: a Rookie Preacher and a Seminary Professor'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_2Ux7wR8QfFg/StxtGMYii1I/AAAAAAAAA20/KGhdz1P389M/s72-c/marcos+and+faye.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-2272968020835476773</id><published>2009-10-19T05:11:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2009-10-19T07:38:47.614-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='genesis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='evolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='creation'/><title type='text'>Confusing Coversation 6: Must a real event be told in an unstylised narrative?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/50/5950-004-F6CE1260.gif"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 382px; height: 382px;" src="http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/50/5950-004-F6CE1260.gif" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;When people are trying to pin me down exactly where I stand on a lot of the questions concerning the historicity of Genesis 1-3, I'm often asked, "Do you believe in the special creation of man."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The simple answer to the question is, "Yes, absolutely." It is very clear to me from Genesis 1:26-31 that there is the WORLD of difference between human beings and the other creatures. We are specially and uniquely created in God's image. &lt;a href="http://www.twynholm.org/2009/09/20/sermon-for-september-20-2009/"&gt;I preached on this&lt;/a&gt; a couple of weeks ago at Twynholm.&lt;br /&gt;However, what is often meant in the question behind the question is this: "Do you believe in the special creation of man, and none of that nonsense about shared descent from apes?"&lt;br /&gt;Here is another issue where I think there is unnecessary division between Christians who have the same anthropology of believing that all humans are made in God's image, no other creature is, and would have a very similar theology of what that means.&lt;br /&gt;We all believe that human beings are not made "ex nihilo" but from pre-existent material. We are made from the dust; but God has so breathed life into us that we have become living beings of incredible value and worth. We all agree that we are "descended" from dust physically, but spiritually specially created. Does it diminish the value of human beings if God &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;took his time&lt;/span&gt; in bringing us from dust to image bearing just as he &lt;a href="http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/10/confusing-conversation-5-what-god-did.html"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;took his time&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; in forming and filling the universe?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I can understand the arguments on both sides when it comes to whether Genesis 2 should be taken as an entirely literal historical account in every detail. I am not yet utterly persuaded either way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Take the rivers for example. Some people take those to be a sign that we could actually fairly accurately locate Eden to somewhere near the source (and others suggest near the mouth) of the Tigris and Euphrates. We can then make some guesses as to which rivers the Pishon and the Gihon are (or suggest that they no longer exist as their course was so altered by the flood.) If this is the reading, the point being made would be that this is a real place that existed at a real time, yet, due to the expulsion we cannot return there (though, why not, if we can locate it - would we still find a cherub stationed with a flaming sword, or has the tree of life died? or been removed permanently in order to be planted in the New Jerusalem?).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Others believe that Eden is much more of an &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;idealised&lt;/span&gt; picture of the original dwelling place of man with God, rather than a literal account. The four rivers then might be Tigris, Euphrates, Nile (making a much more straightforward reading of 'Cush' as its normal location in Ethiopia) and Indus. The whole land - the whole ancient near east - thus receives its blessings from the place where God dwells with his people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think that there are New Testament controls that make it essential to believe in a literal Adam and Eve from whom are descended all people (I disagree with&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Creation-Evolution-Do-Have-Choose/dp/1854247468/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1255946484&amp;amp;sr=1-1"&gt; Denis Alexander &lt;/a&gt;on this). Just as we all sinned in the one man Adam, so in the one man Christ we are all made alive. Also, even if one takes much of the detail in Genesis 2 as figurative, the genealogies in Gen 5, and particularly the assertion in Gen 3:20 that Eve would become the mother of all the living, convince me that we have real events being described, even if the description is stylised.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It is possible for real events to be described in a stylised fashion; one might think of the description of the stars fighting against Sisera in Judges 5:20. Was it a real event? Yes! It's just been described in a more literal historiography in Judges 4. Does that mean that it cannot be described in stylised terms in chapter 5? Do we have to rethink our cosmology in order to accommodate fighting stars? No!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Christians can disagree as to the genre of Genesis 2, and still agree on its theology of man, of marriage, of the relationship between man and God, of work, of worship, and a hundred other central things. Let's not make it an issue to divide over.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-2272968020835476773?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/2272968020835476773/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=2272968020835476773' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2272968020835476773'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2272968020835476773'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/10/confusing-coversation-6-must-real-event.html' title='Confusing Coversation 6: Must a real event be told in an unstylised narrative?'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-7523978100114262046</id><published>2009-10-19T04:34:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2009-10-19T07:38:22.991-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='finance'/><title type='text'>Paul Mills on the Economic Crisis</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/a1bAe5fBsEE&amp;rel=0&amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;hl=en&amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/a1bAe5fBsEE&amp;rel=0&amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;hl=en&amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-7523978100114262046?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/7523978100114262046/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=7523978100114262046' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/7523978100114262046'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/7523978100114262046'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/10/paul-mills-on-economic-crisis.html' title='Paul Mills on the Economic Crisis'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-8595497549527590585</id><published>2009-10-15T08:58:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2009-10-15T09:01:13.509-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Lucas and Williams at West London Ministry Morning</title><content type='html'>Had a great morning yesterday.&lt;br /&gt;Blogged about it &lt;a href="http://blog.9marks.org/2009/10/west-london-ministry-morning.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://blog.9marks.org/2009/10/dick-lucas-on-the-pastoral-epistles.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-8595497549527590585?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/8595497549527590585/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=8595497549527590585' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/8595497549527590585'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/8595497549527590585'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/10/lucas-and-williams-at-west-london.html' title='Lucas and Williams at West London Ministry Morning'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-8809649751669408986</id><published>2009-10-15T08:55:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2009-10-15T08:57:43.370-05:00</updated><title type='text'>up with up</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.stormcinemas.co.uk/images/sce/disney-pixar-up-movie-poster-11.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 379px; height: 559px;" src="http://www.stormcinemas.co.uk/images/sce/disney-pixar-up-movie-poster-11.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Must take the kids to see this one after reading&lt;a href="http://www.jubilee-centre.org/jubilee/blogs.php?postID=244"&gt; this...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-8809649751669408986?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/8809649751669408986/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=8809649751669408986' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/8809649751669408986'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/8809649751669408986'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/10/up-with-up.html' title='up with up'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-1996299143652279295</id><published>2009-10-09T12:54:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2009-10-09T13:00:16.286-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Not sure that's what I meant... but maybe!</title><content type='html'>When I was preaching on Genesis 2 last week, I mentioned that being made in God's image is not just about God doing things &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;for&lt;/span&gt; us, but also us doing things &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;with &lt;/span&gt;him. Adam is called to bring order out of chaos in Eden just as God had brought order out of chaos in Genesis 1.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sometime the best memories of our parents are not what they did &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;for&lt;/span&gt; us, but what they did &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;with&lt;/span&gt; us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, a member of the congregation emailed me this...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/9A2Ap3DyvLg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/9A2Ap3DyvLg&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;HT: Dean Dryden&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-1996299143652279295?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/1996299143652279295/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=1996299143652279295' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/1996299143652279295'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/1996299143652279295'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/10/not-sure-thats-what-i-meant-but-maybe.html' title='Not sure that&apos;s what I meant... but maybe!'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-1285412347752087655</id><published>2009-10-08T15:15:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-10-19T07:38:47.615-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='genesis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='evolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='creation'/><title type='text'>Confusing conversation 5: What God did, and What God could have done.</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/files/2007/hubble_AbellS0740.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 485px; height: 539px;" src="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/files/2007/hubble_AbellS0740.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;"So you think that God took 14 billion years to make the world, not just 6 days. Don't you believe God is powerful enough to do it quicker?"&lt;br /&gt;I have heard young earthers ask old earthers such questions.&lt;br /&gt;But I hope that no self-respecting old earther would imagine for a moment that God &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;couldn't&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt; have done it in 6 literal days, 6 literal seconds or 6 literal picoseconds.&lt;br /&gt;Similarly I hope that no self-respecting young-earther would for a moment imagine that God would have shown himself more glorious had he chosen to create in less time than six days, but somehow he didn't because he couldn't.&lt;br /&gt;If one is going to take Genesis 1 literally, the strange thing is not that God takes such a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;short&lt;/span&gt; time to form and fill the whole world, but that he takes such a &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;long&lt;/span&gt; time. After all, he is the one who &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;creates  &lt;/span&gt;time - he doesn't need it! His whole infinite life does not experience the passing of time at all.&lt;br /&gt;Somehow, God is bringing more glory to himself by &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;taking&lt;/span&gt; his time.&lt;br /&gt;Old earthers would argue that God brings &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;even&lt;/span&gt; more glory to himself by taking billions of years temporarily, just as he brings more glory to himself in creating ten billion times ten billion suns.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-1285412347752087655?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/1285412347752087655/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=1285412347752087655' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/1285412347752087655'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/1285412347752087655'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/10/confusing-conversation-5-what-god-did.html' title='Confusing conversation 5: What God did, and What God could have done.'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-9129198369213834977</id><published>2009-09-24T15:56:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2009-09-24T15:59:48.465-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Music'/><title type='text'>Great New song on the love of Christ</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="400" height="300"&gt;&lt;param name="allowfullscreen" value="true" /&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=6741547&amp;amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;amp;show_title=1&amp;amp;show_byline=1&amp;amp;show_portrait=0&amp;amp;color=&amp;amp;fullscreen=1" /&gt;&lt;embed src="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=6741547&amp;amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;amp;show_title=1&amp;amp;show_byline=1&amp;amp;show_portrait=0&amp;amp;color=&amp;amp;fullscreen=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="400" height="300"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/6741547"&gt;By This We Know Love&lt;/a&gt; from &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com/user844460"&gt;Sovereign Grace Ministries&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href="http://vimeo.com"&gt;Vimeo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.worshipmatters.com/2009/09/24/by-this-we-know-love-video-from-next-live-2009/"&gt;HT: Bob Kauflin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-9129198369213834977?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/9129198369213834977/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=9129198369213834977' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/9129198369213834977'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/9129198369213834977'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/09/great-new-song-on-love-of-christ.html' title='Great New song on the love of Christ'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-9074362892274909765</id><published>2009-09-23T15:33:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2009-09-24T16:00:47.137-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='genesis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='evolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='creation'/><title type='text'>Confusing Conversations 4: Literally true, and truly literal.</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.harekrsna.de/surya/sun-chariot.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 324px; height: 240px;" src="http://www.harekrsna.de/surya/sun-chariot.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"If you don't believe that the first chapter of the bible is literally true, then how can you believe that the rest of it is?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope that every Christian believes that the bible is literally, true. That is absolutely and entirely truthful in &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;everything&lt;/span&gt; it affirms. So, wherever the bible affirms something as scientific fact, then it is scientific fact. Wherever it affirms something as accurate history, it is accurate history. But, the Good Samaritan is not historically accurate (it is a parable). Ezekiel 1 is not scientific fact, it is a vision.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;However, this doesn't mean that to truly understand the bible, one must take the most literal interpretation possible. It is always literally (in the sense of totally and utterly) true; the truth is not always literal (in a sense that excludes all metaphor, parable, poetic licence, verbal imagery etc.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Obvious other examples of this in the realm of cosmology are found in Psalm 19:6&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"[the sun] rises at one end of the heavens&lt;br /&gt;and makes its circuit to the other;     &lt;br /&gt;nothing is hidden from its heat. "&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Are we to believe that the sun literally moves from one end of the heavens to another? No! We don't have to believe in a geocentric universe in order to believe that Psalm 19 is utterly true. It is just not true in a literal sense. In fact, to try to understand it as a true scientific account of the orbit of the sun is to utterly misunderstand it; to miss its truth; to distort it. This is fairly easy to see, as Psalm 19 is undeniably poetic. The sun has already been described as a bridegroom, and champion. Are we to envisage a marriage to the moon, or a little horse that the sun rides on? No, it's poetry that teaches how this majestic sun, seen everywhere, giving heat and light shines for the glory of God. But the poetry is more than just those statements; as poetry it attaches an appropriate emotional response of awe and wonder and splendour to those truths. The poetry conveys the truths in exactly the inspired fashion that its divine author intended.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is Psalm 19 made more problematic had many (or all) of the early readers would have believed in a geocentric universe, and thus, if read literally,  understood it to correspond better to the cosmology they held than we would understand it to. No: for that is not the intention of the passage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What then is the intention of Genesis 1? Is it true literalistically? Does it employ poetic imagery? Does it even employ culturally accepted views of the world in order to convey truths?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These are legitimate questions to ask in bible interpretation. Let's not assume that if we come to different conclusions as to the intention of a passage, and therefore a different conclusion as to which truths are being affirmed in a passage, that we therefore have a different understanding as to whether the text is truthful. Let's all agree to trust what the bible really teaches and then work jolly hard at trying to understand it on its own terms.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-9074362892274909765?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/9074362892274909765/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=9074362892274909765' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/9074362892274909765'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/9074362892274909765'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/09/confusing-conversations-4-literally.html' title='Confusing Conversations 4: Literally true, and truly literal.'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-741978258458813539</id><published>2009-09-21T04:02:00.006-05:00</published><updated>2009-09-24T16:00:27.824-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='genesis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='evolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='creation'/><title type='text'>Confusing Conversations 3: "Deism" is an accusation that can cut both ways.</title><content type='html'>It seems common among Christians on both sides of the "Creationist vs. Theistic Evolution" debate to accuse one another of Deism rather than Theism. Deism is the idea that, while God was intimately involved in the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;creation&lt;/span&gt; of the world, he is largely, or totally uninvolved in the intricacies of  its ongoing existence. This is contrasted with Theism, in which God not only made the world, but sustains its existence. He remains intimately involved with everything that continues to happen in his creation. The contrast is therefore the difference between a watchmaker who made it, wound it up and let it go and a composer who note only wrote all the notes, but also conducts the orchestra.&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://ltpalculict.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/wayne-grudem.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 187px; height: 155px;" src="http://ltpalculict.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/wayne-grudem.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some creationists accuse theistic evolution of deism: so, Wayne Grudem writes "The fundamental difference between a biblical view of creation and theistic evolution lies here: the driving force that brings about change and the development of new species in all evolutionary schemes is &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;randomness.... &lt;/span&gt;But the driving force in the development of new organisms according to Scripture is God's &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;intelligent design.&lt;/span&gt;" (Systematic theology, 276)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yet it seems here that Grudem has assumed, a priori, that the view of "randomness" that theistic evolutionists tend to believe in is one that is outside of God's theistic design. Yet &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;every &lt;/span&gt;theist ought to believe that though there are apparently "random" and "chance" events the Lord is utterly sovereign in them all. The Lord has "designed" intentions in them. From the roll of the dice to the decision of free agents the Lord has intentions that are most certainly NOT random.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Proverbs 16 reminds us of both of these facts&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-16850"&gt;9&lt;/sup&gt; In his heart a man plans his course,&lt;br /&gt;   but the LORD determines his steps.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; &lt;sup class="versenum" id="en-NIV-16874"&gt;33&lt;/sup&gt; The lot is cast into the lap,&lt;br /&gt;   but its every decision is from the LORD. (NIV)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Undoubtedly there are some who hold to theistic evolution who themselves tend towards deism. I have had conversations with people who suggest that God set it up in such a way that he knew &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;something&lt;/span&gt; good would come out of it, but could not be sure &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;what&lt;/span&gt;. So, Deistic Evolution posing as Theistic Evolution exists. But, I fear that it may betray some deistic assumptions on the part of creationists if they will insist that &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;apparent&lt;/span&gt; randomness is incompatible with intelligent divine design.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the other hand there are those who hold to theistic evolution who accuse creationists of deism.&lt;br /&gt;Ever since Henry Drummond coined the phrase "the god of the gaps" it has been used as an accusation against those who hold to creationism, and more recently Intelligent Design. The idea is that peopl&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://henrydrummond.wwwhubs.com/drumm1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 136px; height: 172px;" src="http://henrydrummond.wwwhubs.com/drumm1.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;e seem to think that science runs itself quite nicely, thank you very much, but there are a few things that cannot be explained without some kind of miraculous intervention from God. Like &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps#cite_note-2"&gt;Drummond&lt;/a&gt;, they urge instead belief in "an immanent God, which is the God of Evolution, is infinitely grander than the occasional wonder-worker, who is the God of an old theology."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, though once again this accusation of a God only occasionally involved in His world may be fair for a few creationists, sure theistic creationism is also possible: that God is utterly involved in every moment, but differently involved in the miraculous.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whichever position you take on the Creationism vs. Evolution debate, make sure that in avoiding falling into materialism, you don't inadvertently fall into deism: that would be a far more serious error than getting the Creationism vs Evolution question wrong.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Make sure also that you don't wrongly accuse a brother or sister in Christ who believes in the same God as you do of a theology to which they do not hold.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-741978258458813539?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/741978258458813539/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=741978258458813539' title='1 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/741978258458813539'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/741978258458813539'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/09/confusing-conversations-3-deism-is.html' title='Confusing Conversations 3: &quot;Deism&quot; is an accusation that can cut both ways.'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>1</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-3462136238235963695</id><published>2009-09-18T09:17:00.008-05:00</published><updated>2011-03-02T06:42:31.153-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='genesis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='evolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='creation'/><title type='text'>Confusing Conversations 2. "Creation vs. Evolution" is not a conversation</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://www.impactlab.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/pillars-of-creation.jpg" onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}"&gt;&lt;img alt="" border="0" src="http://www.impactlab.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/pillars-of-creation.jpg" style="cursor: pointer; float: right; height: 252px; margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; width: 327px;" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think it was Thomas &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Renz&lt;/span&gt;, a then lecturer at Oak Hill, who was the first to point out to me that Creation vs. Evolution really isn't a real conversation. It is the confusion of two conversations.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Really there is one staggeringly important conversation: Creation vs. Evolutionism&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And one real, but far less important conversation: Creationism vs. Evolution.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The first conversation is vitally important because it is a conversation about worldviews. Is there a creator or not? Is the world utterly dependent upon that creator, or is "evolutionism" (the idea that evolution can explain everything) true? "Evolutionism" is a term used in different ways, but where used appropriately and not merely as a sneer, it is a materialistic philosophy that believes that evolution is not merely an historical explanation of what has happened, but also a philosophical explanation. Matter is all there is; matter happens to have thrown up these incredibly evolving organisms that have eventually, through an entirely materialistic process, led to the existence of humans.&lt;br /&gt;By contrast, "creation" presupposes a theistic worldview: it assumes that the world is created by a divine being who is utterly in control of whatever processes have taken place to bring about humanity, and every other thing in existence, from the smallest molecule to the largest &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;supercluster&lt;/span&gt; of galaxies. Whatever processes there may have been to get to where the creation is now, in a very real sense these processes can be described as his acts of creation.&lt;br /&gt;All Christians should obviously be in agreement that "creation" rather than "evolutionism" is alone a satisfactory worldview that makes sense of the existence of our universe and everything in it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The other debate is not about worldviews at all, though it is often confused as being so. It is a debate about ancient (Natural) History, the debate between Creationism and Evolution. It is a debate about the age of the earth; the time it took for certain species to come (be brought) into being. It is a debate about taxonomy: are the species fixed, or can there in time be sufficient divergence within a species that eventually one has multiple species.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These are, of course perfectly valid questions to be asking. But I hope that every theist at least recognises how these questions are far far less important than the questions of worldview.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The methodology by which we come to a particular conclusion on this second question might betray a worldview, and more of that anon; but it is inaccurate to imply that either position, in and of itself, encapsulates a worldview.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So in summary, we have two debates.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) Worldview Debate: Creation (theism) vs. evolutionism (materialism)&lt;br /&gt;2) History / Taxonomy debate: creationism (young earth / fixed species) vs. evolution (old earth, unfixed species)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Two questions to think about.&lt;br /&gt;a) which debate is more important?&lt;br /&gt;b) which debate is nearer the centre of the force of Genesis 1?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think that all Christians who have read Genesis 1 carefully should be in no doubt at all that the answer to both these questions is (1)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;For other posts in this series see &lt;a href="http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/search/label/creation"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-3462136238235963695?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/3462136238235963695/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=3462136238235963695' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3462136238235963695'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3462136238235963695'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/09/confusing-conversatiions-2-creation-vs.html' title='Confusing Conversations 2. &quot;Creation vs. Evolution&quot; is not a conversation'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-4440080274990303044</id><published>2009-09-01T10:42:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2009-09-24T16:00:27.824-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='genesis'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='evolution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='creation'/><title type='text'>Confusing Conversations about Creation</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://pharyngula.org/images/lay_evo_obesity.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 440px; height: 592px;" src="http://pharyngula.org/images/lay_evo_obesity.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In preparing for preaching a sermon series on Genesis 1-3 I thought it would be good to get a little more up to speed on where the lay of the land is at the moment in the debates between creationists / intelligent design movement / theistic evolutionists and the new atheists.&lt;br /&gt;I have to admit, that the issues involved, and particularly their relationship (or lack of it) to a right understanding of Genesis One can be enormously confusing. Many people seem to be talking past each other. They thing they are having one conversation when their discussion partner thinks it is an entirely different conversation. The conversations are confusing, precisely because one conversation is being confused with another.&lt;br /&gt;I thought I'd do a few posts to examine the confusing of the conversation conversations and how confusing it can be. And if you are not confused yet, just wait!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-4440080274990303044?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/4440080274990303044/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=4440080274990303044' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/4440080274990303044'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/4440080274990303044'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/09/confusing-conversations-about-creation.html' title='Confusing Conversations about Creation'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-3082941100642461747</id><published>2009-07-08T06:19:00.004-05:00</published><updated>2009-07-08T16:58:30.021-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Sad, and very sad...</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="560" height="340"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/WSTwdbvLVeg&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/WSTwdbvLVeg&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;fs=1&amp;amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"We come together in this place where… he brought joy as only he could."&lt;br /&gt;"Though our hearts are aching we need to look up where he is..."&lt;br /&gt;“I love [him] and I want to thank him so much for blessing me and every single individual on this earth…”&lt;br /&gt;“He is going to live forever and ever and ever and ever."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sadly, none of these quotes were intended to refer to the Lord Jesus, but to another very lost self-declared king.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Even as the coffin containing his corpse came in and the choir began,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“Soon and very soon we are going to see the king”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It was clear from the screams of fans in the congregation that they knew that the king they were hoping to see soon and very soon was the one whose body was being carried in that that moment.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Al Mohler put it well: " Where the Gospel of Christ is absent or eclipsed, this is all that is left. The messianism of Michael J. will just transfer to a new object."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-3082941100642461747?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/3082941100642461747/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=3082941100642461747' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3082941100642461747'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3082941100642461747'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/07/sad-and-very-sad.html' title='Sad, and very sad...'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-3405164551766042599</id><published>2009-06-16T09:41:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2009-06-16T09:46:52.217-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='cartoons'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Prayer'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='apolgetics'/><title type='text'>The prayer of atheists.</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://lovingcartoons.stripgenerator.com/2009/06/16/breakeven.html"&gt;&lt;img style="border: none;" src="http://static.stripgenerator.com/generated/gilbartsmiths/strip/2009/06/16/breakeven_embed.png" alt="Breakeven" title="Breakeven" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Noting &lt;br /&gt;1) the lyrics of "The script" song "breakeven"&lt;br /&gt;2) the fact that google returns over 6 million results for the exact sentence "pray to a god I don't believe in". seems people can't help it. Perhaps people believe there is a God after all.&lt;br /&gt;3) Why, when I believe there is a God do I not more often turn to him in prayer? Are we too often practical atheists?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-3405164551766042599?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/3405164551766042599/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=3405164551766042599' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3405164551766042599'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3405164551766042599'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/06/noting-1-lyrics-of-script-song.html' title='The prayer of atheists.'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-2412930814268659956</id><published>2009-06-15T10:10:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2009-06-15T10:12:09.956-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Great title for a conference...</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/CN868S4Y-ZU&amp;amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;amp;fs=1"&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/CN868S4Y-ZU&amp;amp;color1=0xb1b1b1&amp;amp;color2=0xcfcfcf&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" width="425" height="344"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Great title for a day conference... maybe someone could give a blog that title!?&lt;br /&gt;HT: &lt;a href="http://thebluefish.org/2009/06/love-church-promo-video.html"&gt;Dave Bish&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-2412930814268659956?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/2412930814268659956/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=2412930814268659956' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2412930814268659956'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/2412930814268659956'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/06/great-title-for-conference.html' title='Great title for a conference...'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-3476501068452270683</id><published>2009-06-15T08:07:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2009-06-15T08:57:37.523-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preaching'/><title type='text'>Conversation about sermon introductions</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://involve.9marks.org/images/content/pagebuilder/10723.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 605px; height: 67px;" src="http://involve.9marks.org/images/content/pagebuilder/10723.jpg" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Over at the &lt;a href="http://blog.9marks.org/"&gt;9Marks Blog&lt;/a&gt; a few of us have been having a conversation about sermon introductions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://blog.9marks.org/2009/06/sermon-introductions.html"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Deepak&lt;/span&gt; asked&lt;/a&gt; the question. &lt;a href="http://blog.9marks.org/2009/06/the-point-of-an-introduction-judges-9.html"&gt;I gave&lt;/a&gt; the "textbook" answer. &lt;a href="http://blog.9marks.org/2009/06/sermon-introductions-1.html"&gt;Mike McKinley&lt;/a&gt; replied, questioning the usefulness of many introductions. &lt;a href="http://blog.9marks.org/2009/06/what-to-do-when-your-introduction-is-rubbish.html"&gt;I nuanced&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://blog.9marks.org/2009/06/more-on-introductions.html"&gt;Aaron &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Menikoff&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/a&gt;chipped in. &lt;a href="http://blog.9marks.org/2009/06/presuming-interest-in-introductions.html"&gt;Mike&lt;/a&gt; retorted. I'm planning to reply and link to this post in case anyone wants to read a brief (and not particularly clever) introduction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So, here's the text of the introduction from Sunday's sermon on Jephthah... 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	mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; 	mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; 	mso-style-noshow:yes; 	mso-style-priority:99; 	mso-style-qformat:yes; 	mso-style-parent:""; 	mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; 	mso-para-margin:0cm; 	mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; 	mso-pagination:widow-orphan; 	font-size:10.0pt; 	font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";} &lt;/style&gt; &lt;![endif]--&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;“&lt;a href="http://thinkexist.com/quotation/intelligence_without_ambition_is_a_bird_without/7487.html"&gt;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;Intelligence without &lt;b&gt;ambition&lt;/b&gt; is a bird without wings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin-left: 0cm; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;a href="http://thinkexist.com/quotes/salvador_dal%C3%AD/"&gt;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;Salvador Dalí quotes&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a href="http://thinkexist.com/nationality/spanish_authors/"&gt;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;Spanish&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; painter, &lt;a href="http://thinkexist.com/birthday/may_11/"&gt;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;1904&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;-&lt;a href="http://thinkexist.com/birthday/january_23/"&gt;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;1989&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="color:blue;"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;The point he’s making is clear: whatever natural abilities we have, we will not make the most of them unless we have ambition: a desire to use that which has been given us to serve some end.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;What is your ambition? What are you intent on achieving with you life?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;Fame? I wonder how many people around the country are already rehearsing their skills in order to attempt to have half a chance of fame in next year’s Britain’s got talent.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;Wealth? Oscar Wilde once said, “Every man of ambition has to fight his century with its own weapons. What this century worships is wealth. The God of this century is wealth. To succeed one must have wealth. At all costs one must have wealth.”&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;Other ambitions seem far more down to earth than seeking untold wealth or fame, and yet can be just as much of a driving force in our lives. Perhaps you feel your ambitions are much more reasonable, and less, well... ambitious.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:7;"  &gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;A stable family&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:7;"  &gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;A successful career&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:7;"  &gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;A peaceful life&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:7;"  &gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;Living to meet one’s great grandchildren&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:7;"  &gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;Having a child&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:7;"  &gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;Holding down a job&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:7;"  &gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;Getting out of debt.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:7;"  &gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;Kicking a bad habit.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportLists]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Symbol;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;·&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:7;"  &gt;        &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;Owning you own home&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;Perhaps you ahve to admit that you’ve given up on ambition. Your hopes have passed you by, and now you are content to live one day at a time, but occasionally you wonder if your life had become directionless: you feel as if you are not longer living, but only existing.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;Ambition becomes a driving force that motivates one to sacrifice a great deal in order to serve your ambition. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;What are you ambitious for?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;What sacrifices are you willing to make in order to realise that ambition?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;It is an important question because our ambitions set the direction of our lives, as much as we are able.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;And in setting our life’s direction, it reveals what we think the purpose of life is.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;What do your ambitions say about your understanding of the purpose of life?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:&amp;quot;;font-size:14;"  &gt;Judges 10-12 introduces a new character who is nothing if not ambitious...&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-3476501068452270683?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/3476501068452270683/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=3476501068452270683' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3476501068452270683'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/3476501068452270683'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/06/conversation-about-sermon-introductions.html' title='Conversation about sermon introductions'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-6595718479516461115</id><published>2009-06-03T09:30:00.002-05:00</published><updated>2009-06-03T09:45:46.348-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='cartoons'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Apologetics'/><title type='text'>cartoon as a medium for apologetics</title><content type='html'>&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5216/pencilfx0.png"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer; width: 322px; height: 278px;" src="http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5216/pencilfx0.png" alt="" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps you may be wondering why I've branched into cartoons for my last couple of posts.&lt;br /&gt;Is it because I've discovered a great artistic ability that had long laid dormant? (no, I discovered &lt;a href="http://lovingcartoons.stripgenerator.com/"&gt;a website&lt;/a&gt; that will provide the drawings for me!)&lt;br /&gt;But, more importantly I've come to the conclusion that strip cartoons are an excellent medium for presuppositional apologetics.&lt;br /&gt;1) The best cartoons make people think, until they have worked out the irony of the situation. One of the hardest obstacles to the apologist is the fact that in an apologetic conversation people are coming up with their replies to the point being made before they have time to think about the point itself. The cartoon forces them to take that time.&lt;br /&gt;2) The medium gets people off the defensive.&lt;br /&gt;3) Cartoons are an excellent medium for demonstrating the untenability and laughability of a particular position in a way that is disarming.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are some positives. What do you think the dangers are?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-6595718479516461115?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/6595718479516461115/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=6595718479516461115' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/6595718479516461115'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/6595718479516461115'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/06/cartoon-as-medium-for-apologetics.html' title='cartoon as a medium for apologetics'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-8287000618859437438</id><published>2009-06-03T09:10:00.001-05:00</published><updated>2009-06-03T09:11:40.826-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='cartoons'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Apologetics'/><title type='text'>Ecclesiastes 12:14</title><content type='html'>Learned how to embed with this one...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://lovingcartoons.stripgenerator.com/2009/06/03/ecclesiastes-1214.html"&gt;&lt;img style="border: medium none ;" src="http://static.stripgenerator.com/generated/gilbartsmiths/strip/2009/06/03/ecclesiastes-1214_embed.png" alt="Ecclesiastes 12:14" title="Ecclesiastes 12:14" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-8287000618859437438?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/8287000618859437438/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=8287000618859437438' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/8287000618859437438'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/8287000618859437438'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/06/ecclesiastes-1214.html' title='Ecclesiastes 12:14'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-7969386659609184019</id><published>2009-06-02T06:28:00.006-05:00</published><updated>2009-06-03T09:45:24.532-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='cartoons'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Apologetics'/><title type='text'>Romans 1:20</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://lovingcartoons.stripgenerator.com/2009/06/03/romans-120.html"&gt;&lt;img style="border: none;" src="http://static.stripgenerator.com/generated/gilbartsmiths/strip/2009/06/03/romans-120_embed.png" alt="Romans 1:20" title="Romans 1:20" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;or, for a clearer view go to...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://stripgenerator.com/strip/248086/"&gt;http://stripgenerator.com/strip/248086/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-7969386659609184019?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/7969386659609184019/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=7969386659609184019' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' 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obviously raised questions about guidance: is "laying out a fleece" a good way forward when attempting to discern God's will?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Clearly in the Gideon narrative, he lays out fleeces not to try to discern God's will (he knows that God has already revealed it to him) but because he doubts God's word. Judges 6:36-37 make that very clear.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Gideon said to God, "If you will save Israel by my hand &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;as you have promised&lt;/span&gt; - look, I will place a wool fleece on the threshing floor. If there is dew only on the fleece and all the ground is dry, then I will know that you will save Israel by my hand, &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;as you said&lt;/span&gt;."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Twice he asks God to prove that he will keep his promises. This is not a model of seeking God's will, but an example of how we too often equivocate in response to God's clear will.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What then should we expect in searching for God's will for our lives?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is a section from the sermon I preached a couple of weeks ago:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;meta equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"&gt;&lt;meta name="ProgId" content="Word.Document"&gt;&lt;meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 12"&gt;&lt;meta name="Originator" content="Microsoft Word 12"&gt;&lt;link rel="File-List" href="file:///C:%5CUsers%5CMIKE&amp;amp;H%7E1%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CTemp%5Cmsohtmlclip1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml"&gt;&lt;link rel="themeData" href="file:///C:%5CUsers%5CMIKE&amp;amp;H%7E1%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CTemp%5Cmsohtmlclip1%5C01%5Cclip_themedata.thmx"&gt;&lt;link rel="colorSchemeMapping" href="file:///C:%5CUsers%5CMIKE&amp;amp;H%7E1%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CTemp%5Cmsohtmlclip1%5C01%5Cclip_colorschememapping.xml"&gt;&lt;!--[if gte mso 9]&gt;&lt;xml&gt; 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Three people mentioned rings that day, and, by God's grace they were still happily married decades later.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin-left: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;" lang="EN-US"&gt;Are these less than clear decisions the time to lay out a fleece? No! we are nowhere told that in Scripture; it just isn't a biblical model of how we are to make decision. Clearly God can direct our steps in very personal and clear ways; we are never told to wait for him to do that before we make decisions though: we are to pray for wisdom, search for wisdom in his word, and seek the wisdom of other disciples, and then make a decision that we trust will be wise. Indecisiveness is not a sign of humility; it is not a sign of maturity; waiting for God to reveal the future to us before we take any decisions is a sign of a lack of trust in the Sovereign Lord who plans everything to our good. It is&lt;span style=""&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;sign that we think it is safer to do nothing… &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin-left: 0cm;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 115%;" lang="EN-US"&gt;&lt;o:p&gt; &lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  Dave Bish reviews a book &lt;a href="http://thebluefish.org/2009/06/review-just-do-something-kevin-deyoung.html"&gt;here &lt;/a&gt;that has the opposite advice for a life well spent: JUST DO SOMETHING!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3988218252384954785-6298335895153824119?l=lovingchurch.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/feeds/6298335895153824119/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3988218252384954785&amp;postID=6298335895153824119' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/6298335895153824119'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/3988218252384954785/posts/default/6298335895153824119'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://lovingchurch.blogspot.com/2009/06/gideon-fleeces-and-paralysis.html' title='Gideon, Fleeces and paralysis'/><author><name>Mike Gilbart-Smith</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01769957028641055416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://test.chbcaudio.org/wp-content/uploads/0,,1711420,00.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3988218252384954785.post-3458009904871541889</id><published>2009-05-15T05:47:00.003-05:00</published><updated>2009-05-15T08:00:26.304-05:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Preaching'/><title type='text'>Preaching longer passages</title><content type='html'>Just in the middle of preparing the third of 8 messages in Judges.&lt;br /&gt;That means 21 chapters in 8 sermons.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This week it's Judges 4 &amp;amp; 5.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some delights and challenges of preparing such messages.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Delights:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;you can get a good overview of a good length book in a brief time. In itself this has several advantages&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;You can help the congregation to see the wood from the trees. So, Judges in just 8 sermons will give a very clear picture of the rapid descent of Israel from holy nation to anarchic Sodom-like state. The model of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;Othniel&lt;/span&gt; will sill be fresh in our minds as we look at the subsequent judges, etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;In eight short weeks it should become very clear what the distinctive contribution of Judges is to Scripture.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;If this enables you to get through several full series each year, then your congregation will be able to have a reasonably balanced diet. Within two or three years they will have heard expounded books of the bible from all the major genres: law, history, prophecy, poetry, gospel/acts, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Pauline&lt;/span&gt; epistles, general epistles/ revelation.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Within a couple of decades you will have the opportunity to preach through the whole bible.  If you stick to an average of 10 verses per week, you'll take 60 
